Anybody know where to learn more about estimating pipe life?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: A Pipe's Life

Benjamin,

Not the steel but the zinc reacts with the foam. What I've seen is
something that looks like powdered metal mixed with axle grease
forming a substantial plug.

On Nov 29, 2007 1:43 PM, Benjamin Schrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the info, Ron.  Did you mean that the presence of AFFF causes
the
> breakdown of steel pipe?
> Benjamin
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron
Greenman
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 5:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: A Pipe's Life
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> Benjamin,
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> First and foremost you cannot use galvanized with AFFF. Black steel
> tends to swell, stratify and then de-laminate (there are some proper
> and precise words to describe this but they're escaping me at the
> moment). Stainless works well on ships. I don't have a clue about C.L.
> ductile but sounds like it might work.
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> On Nov 28, 2007 2:13 PM, Benjamin Schrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > An existing AFFF foam system, supplied by sea water, needs the pumps
> > replaced.  The pipe supplying the pumps, and from the pumps to the
deluge
> > valves, in diameters from 8" to 4", totals less than 200' in length.
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> > Our client is looking to us for guidance on what kind of pipe should be
> used
> > to replace the old pipe.  The old pipe is black steel.  How do you
> determine
> > the cost effectiveness of new steel pipe vs. ductile cement lined vs.
> > galvanized vs. stainless steel?  How do you estimate life of pipe?  From
> > your experience, what other concerns should be considered for this
> decision?
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> > Thanks for the help.
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> > Benjamin Schrader
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> > Maine Fire Protection Systems
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