You're right. There's a huge stockpile of broken and shattered dreams in Big D.
Memo to the Munce: I know, I know, stick to sprinklers. But it's just so darned EXCITING. We're pro sports Siberia out here ... Steve Leyton Protection Design & Consulting -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Minkel Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: NFPA 13, 2002 A.3.7.1 (4) No, use instead the broken dreams of Cowboys fans. Bill Minkel, Designer Western States Fire Protection, Dallas NFPA Member #2578666 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: NFPA 13, 2002 A.3.7.1 (4) I already thought of that, but in the case I'm looking at now there isn't any fire-proofing. Maybe we could fill the voids with the broken dreams of Patriot fans everywhere ... Steve Leyton Protection Design & Consulting -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thom McMahon Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NFPA 13, 2002 A.3.7.1 (4) We currently are doing a panel construction parking structure under a mixed use building, and are relying on the fire proofing to fill those voids. The spray on application generally does a pretty good job. Thom McMahon Firetech, Inc. 2560 Copper Ridge Dr Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136 Tel: 970-879-7952 Fax: 970-879-7926 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland Huggins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:44 PM Subject: Re: NFPA 13, 2002 A.3.7.1 (4) > The question that prompted the change was zackery this issue, ie the > channels in the metal pan of a poured concrete floor assembly. Since the > allowance to treat the panel pocket as obstructed construction and place > the sprinklers further down from the ceiling is based on capturing heat, > having all those open channels seemed counter- productive. Thus the > clarification with the wording "including the interface at the roof". > Granted the "roof" is on the outside but it's used synonymously with > ceiling as in 3.9.16 Roof Height. > > Roland > > On Jan 17, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Steve Leyton wrote: > >> Per the above section, the definition panel construction was modified to >> include the language, " ... There should be no unfilled penetrations in >> the cross sectional area of the bounding structural members including >> the interface at the roof." >> >> Where structural steel decking is supported by steel beams and girders >> that otherwise meet the definition of panel construction, was it the >> committee's intent that the openings created by the decking flutes must >> be filled above the top chord of said beams and girders? Or does naked >> steel decking still meet the intent of the definition of panel >> construction? >> >> >> Steve Leyton >> PROTECTION DESIGN & CONSULTING >> 8849-B Complex Drive >> San Diego, CA 92123 >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> Ph: 858.751.2930 - Ext. 102 >> Fax: 858.751.2933 >> Cell: 619.972.5696 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
