I would not fill the space with those of Cowboys fans, as this is an actual vacuum. As we all know, if this space is placed under a vacuum, the flash point is lowered dramatically, and can result in a much faster developing fire.
Matt Matthew J. Willis Living Water Fire Protection, LLC. 1160 McKenzie Rd. PO Box 877 Cantonment, FL. 32533 850-937-1850 Voice 850-937-1852 Facsimile [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- >-----Original Message----- ----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On ----- >Behalf Of Steve Leyton ----- >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:23 AM ----- >To: [email protected] ----- >Subject: RE: NFPA 13, 2002 A.3.7.1 (4) ----- > ----- >You're right. There's a huge stockpile of broken and ----- >shattered dreams ----- >in Big D. ----- > ----- >Memo to the Munce: I know, I know, stick to sprinklers. ----- > But it's just so darned EXCITING. We're pro sports ----- >Siberia out here ... ----- > ----- >Steve Leyton ----- >Protection Design & Consulting ----- > ----- > ----- >-----Original Message----- ----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On ----- >Behalf Of Bill Minkel ----- >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:21 AM ----- >To: [email protected] ----- >Subject: RE: NFPA 13, 2002 A.3.7.1 (4) ----- > ----- > No, use instead the broken dreams of Cowboys fans. ----- > ----- > ----- >Bill Minkel, Designer ----- >Western States Fire Protection, Dallas ----- >NFPA Member #2578666 ----- > ----- >-----Original Message----- ----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On ----- >Behalf Of Steve Leyton ----- >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:10 PM ----- >To: [email protected] ----- >Subject: RE: NFPA 13, 2002 A.3.7.1 (4) ----- > ----- >I already thought of that, but in the case I'm looking ----- >at now there isn't any fire-proofing. Maybe we could ----- >fill the voids with the broken dreams of Patriot fans ----- >everywhere ... ----- > ----- >Steve Leyton ----- >Protection Design & Consulting ----- > ----- > ----- >-----Original Message----- ----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On ----- >Behalf Of Thom McMahon ----- >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:20 PM ----- >To: [email protected] ----- >Subject: Re: NFPA 13, 2002 A.3.7.1 (4) ----- > ----- >We currently are doing a panel construction parking ----- >structure under a mixed use building, and are relying on ----- >the fire proofing to fill those voids. ----- >The spray on application generally does a pretty good job. ----- > ----- >Thom McMahon ----- >Firetech, Inc. ----- >2560 Copper Ridge Dr ----- >Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136 ----- >Tel: 970-879-7952 ----- >Fax: 970-879-7926 ----- >----- Original Message ----- ----- >From: "Roland Huggins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----- >To: <[email protected]> ----- >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:44 PM ----- >Subject: Re: NFPA 13, 2002 A.3.7.1 (4) ----- > ----- > ----- >> The question that prompted the change was zackery this ----- >issue, ie the ----- >> channels in the metal pan of a poured concrete floor ----- >assembly. Since ----- >the ----- >> allowance to treat the panel pocket as obstructed ----- >construction and ----- >place ----- >> the sprinklers further down from the ceiling is based ----- >on capturing ----- >heat, ----- >> having all those open channels seemed counter- ----- >productive. Thus the ----- >> clarification with the wording "including the ----- >interface at the roof". ----- > ----- >> Granted the "roof" is on the outside but it's used ----- >synonymously with ----- >> ceiling as in 3.9.16 Roof Height. ----- >> ----- >> Roland ----- >> ----- >> On Jan 17, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Steve Leyton wrote: ----- >> ----- >>> Per the above section, the definition panel construction was ----- >modified to ----- >>> include the language, " ... There should be no ----- >unfilled penetrations ----- >in ----- >>> the cross sectional area of the bounding structural members ----- >including ----- >>> the interface at the roof." ----- >>> ----- >>> Where structural steel decking is supported by steel beams and ----- >girders ----- >>> that otherwise meet the definition of panel ----- >construction, was it the ----- >>> committee's intent that the openings created by the ----- >decking flutes ----- >must ----- >>> be filled above the top chord of said beams and ----- >girders? 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