I'LL throw my hat in for the Bill's as well! (next year)
Brian Harris FDFP INC. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dyce Geoffrey H. Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: NFPA 13, 2002 A.3.7.1 (4) Go Bills!! (next year) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Williams - FPDC Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: NFPA 13, 2002 A.3.7.1 (4) Was that a Santa Ana wind or just hot air? At 06:09 PM 1/17/2008, you wrote: >I already thought of that, but in the case I'm looking at now there >isn't any fire-proofing. Maybe we could fill the voids with the broken >dreams of Patriot fans everywhere ... > >Steve Leyton >Protection Design & Consulting > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thom >McMahon >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 2:20 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: NFPA 13, 2002 A.3.7.1 (4) > >We currently are doing a panel construction parking structure under a >mixed use building, and are relying on the fire proofing to fill those >voids. >The spray on application generally does a pretty good job. > >Thom McMahon >Firetech, Inc. >2560 Copper Ridge Dr >Steamboat Springs, CO 80488-2136 >Tel: 970-879-7952 >Fax: 970-879-7926 >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Roland Huggins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:44 PM >Subject: Re: NFPA 13, 2002 A.3.7.1 (4) > > > > The question that prompted the change was zackery this issue, ie the > > channels in the metal pan of a poured concrete floor assembly. > > Since >the > > allowance to treat the panel pocket as obstructed construction and >place > > the sprinklers further down from the ceiling is based on capturing >heat, > > having all those open channels seemed counter- productive. Thus the > > clarification with the wording "including the interface at the roof". > > > Granted the "roof" is on the outside but it's used synonymously > > with ceiling as in 3.9.16 Roof Height. > > > > Roland > > > > On Jan 17, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Steve Leyton wrote: > > > >> Per the above section, the definition panel construction was >modified to > >> include the language, " ... There should be no unfilled > >> penetrations >in > >> the cross sectional area of the bounding structural members >including > >> the interface at the roof." > >> > >> Where structural steel decking is supported by steel beams and >girders > >> that otherwise meet the definition of panel construction, was it > >> the committee's intent that the openings created by the decking > >> flutes >must > >> be filled above the top chord of said beams and girders? Or does >naked > >> steel decking still meet the intent of the definition of panel > >> construction? > >> > >> > >> Steve Leyton > >> PROTECTION DESIGN & CONSULTING > >> 8849-B Complex Drive > >> San Diego, CA 92123 > >> ------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Ph: 858.751.2930 - Ext. 102 > >> Fax: 858.751.2933 > >> Cell: 619.972.5696 > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Sprinklerforum mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >> > >> To Unsubscribe, send an email to:Sprinklerforum- > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject > >> field) > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > > To Unsubscribe, send an email >to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >To Unsubscribe, send an email >to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >To Unsubscribe, send an email >to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. 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