Thank you to everyone that has shared their experience on this.  Educating
and "negotiating" with these water purveyors who are applying excessive
hook-up fees for "fund raising" is going to be critical for public support
in communities where this is a problem.  

I echo Steve's comment that "public education will win out in the end," but
public education alone is a very slow process when it comes to prevention.
Most people just don't make prevention a priority until after something
happens to them.   

I hope everyone is doing what they can to encourage their local voting
government officials to vote for residential fire sprinkler requirements in
the IRC at the final hearing this September.

Until the IRC is updated, we will continue to fight an uphill battle that
most homeowners don't have the willingness to engage in.  I tend to be a
conservative, but this is one case where I believe the government's
responsibility for public safety requires legislation.  

Ryan J. Smith

ResidentialFireSprinklers.com - Your Source for Home Fire Protection
http://www.ResidentialFireSprinklers.com


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Residential water lines and meters for fire sprinkler systems

I actually have to credit the blogger - he's got a pretty egalitarian
venue going there.   Matthew's mail corrupted the link - it's here for
cut and paste: 

http://www.scottprogers.com/blog/archives/2008/06/the-heated-debate-of-r
esidential-fire-sprinklers_1213674275/index.php?f=1

Anyone with a couple spare moments can read through the comment thread
and post their own - PUBLIC EDUCATION will win out in the end!!

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew
J. Willis
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Residential water lines and meters for fire sprinkler
systems

http://www.scottprogers.com/blog/archives/2008/06/the-heated-debate-of-r
esid
ential-fire-sprinklers_1213674275/index.php?f=1

Ryan.. You made the news! :-)


Matthew J. Willis
Living Water Fire Protection, LLC.
1160 McKenzie Rd.
PO Box 877
Cantonment, FL. 32533
850-937-1850 Voice
850-937-1852 Facsimile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

----- >On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Ryan J. Smith 
----- ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
----- >> I am engaged in a "friendly" and somewhat public 
----- >debate with a realtor
----- >in
----- >> the Shenandoah Valley, Virginia area on the use 
----- >residential fire
----- >sprinklers.
----- >> He has been educated by the home builders anti residential fire
----- >sprinkler
----- >> material and has been convincing others not to support 
----- >the proposed
----- >code
----- >> changes to the IRC.
----- >>
----- >> The two arguments he is focusing on are:
----- >> 1. Installing a residential fire sprinkler would 
----- >require different
----- >water
----- >> (more expensive) lines and water meters 2. It is difficult (or 
----- >> impossible) to use a water softener in tandem
----- >with a
----- >> residential fire sprinkler system without having to 
----- >add a second
----- >incoming
----- >> water line and water meter
----- >>
----- >> These concerns seem way overstated, especially the 
----- >second since the
----- >water
----- >> softener could simply be installed to the domestic 
----- >supply without
----- >affecting
----- >> the fire sprinkler water supply.
----- >>
----- >> Does anyone have any experience with the first concern 
----- >about secondary
----- >water
----- >> lines and meters being needed?  My understanding is 
----- >that this would
----- >rarely
----- >> be needed only under special circumstances, but I 
----- >wanted to check
----- >before
----- >> posting my rebuttal.
----- >>
----- >> Thanks,
----- >>
----- >> Ryan J. Smith
----- >>
----- >> ResidentialFireSprinklers.com - Your Voice in Home 
----- >Fire Protection 
----- >> http://www.ResidentialFireSprinklers.com
----- >>
----- >>
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