Gentlemen:
Stop circling the wagons!
Go back to the original post.
" An AHJ wants a 13 system in a "
Most AHJs would want a #13 system in every building.
And if they have a properly adopted local amendment, they can require this.
If they don't, then you look at the adopted building code the AHJ is
empowered to enforce, and if it doe not require #13 for SFD's, then he can
want Ed McMahon to show up on his doorstep with a check for a million
dollars, but Ed doesn't have to divert his checks from keeping his 100,000
SF house if he doesn't want to because "wants" isn't the same thing as
"legally required".

With all the debate about PE ineptness on this Forum (choir members in
attendance excepted, of course), why would we accept the AHJ's proclamations
as if they contain more substance just because he's an AHJ?

"JUST SAY NO!" when they try to enforce their beliefs instead of the ADOPTED
CODE.

We had a pump test interrupted couple weeks ago when the AHJ asked us to use
a calibrated gauge. There was NO BASIS IN CODE for this request. Our pump
dude had a calibrated gauge with a date noted on it, so we didn't use the
new ones out of the box we brought along. 30 emails between Ken H and the
AHJ later, we came to an understanding of each other's positions. Maybe
they'll adopt it. But unless you want to do bucket tests in ESFR warehouses,
there is no reason for you to jump thru hoops that -when carefully examined-
don't exist.

glc


-----Original Message-----
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Whitfield
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: 13 system in SFR

Mike,

If you have to do a 13 system, you can use the "dwelling unit" design.  That
may help some.  What about the attic?  Do you have to sprinkler it?

Cliff Whitfield, SET
Fire Design, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 3:21 PM
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Subject: 13 system in SFR

An AHJ wants a 13 system in a 7,300 sqft house because of it's remoteness
from the street. Is the best I can do is calculate 900 sqft because of it
being light hazard with ceilings less that 12' high? Or can I reduce the
area more some how? Please help.
Mike
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