One break occurred in the drum drip of an unheated warehouse (self
explanatory as you mentioned). The other break appeared to occur at an
elbow where the horizontal pipe turned vertical in an combustible
concealed attic space. I didn't look at it personally so I'm not sure if
the pipe was completely horizontal or if there was enough slope to it to
collect water at the elbow. My guess is there was enough slope to it.

Next question... How much condensation can form on the insides of DP
systems? Let say for conversation, a gallon of H2O collects in a
location that isn't drained out. I know water expands when it freezes,
but wouldn't the expansion take place back in the "dry" portions of the
system? I mean unless there was enough water there to hold things from
expanding into the system and cause them to expand outward, the water
"should" expand into the dry portions of the system.... Shouldn't it?
Path of least resistance.

Steve

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Subject: Re: Dry Pipe System Dilemmas

Where did the breaks in the system occur?  That may help in diagnosing
the problem.  In a previous life we had a dry system that froze and
broke at the drum drip due to lack of maintenance (also the drum was in
an unheated space).  We had another where there was over 100 low point
drains in an attic system and one may have been missed during
maintenance / after testing (I think we ended up tagging 156 low point
drains after that happened).  There is always some water in the systems,
if they are not maintained properly things can happen.

Andrew Weisfield

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