There is your problem!  You have electrical doing fire alarm and
mechanical doing sprinkler!!!  You just defined the need for a qualified
FPE to perform those functions (and many more).  

Paul Pinigis, P.E.
Life Safety Department Head




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thom
McMahon
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: another fire - this will be interesting

Unfortunately, even just MPE firms can't co-ordinate within the firm,
adding
another layer (F) won't improve the end product. The E showed the smoke
detector, the M said sprinkler per code, and the P never even remembered
the
sump in the elevator pit. Add an (F) to that and I can assure you that
it
will be all F'ed up!

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John
Drucker

What we need are MEPF firms, engineering firms that employ and fully
utilize
fire protection engineers to look at the big picture, assess, plan,
design,
coordinate and supervise cost effective and efficient fire protection
solutions. 


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