My final thoughts on this. (I Promise!)

When you see spec.'s in Div 15 for fire sprinkler it's a good indication
that they don't know fire sprinklers, or haven't updated their spec since
1986 when Fire Sprinklers moved to Div. 13. (That's right you've been seeing
the same "Canned" spec that is at least 23 years old. Possibly older than
some on this forum.)
When you see a spec. in DIV. 13, but you local code is NFPA 13 2007, know
that Fire Sprinklers were no longer in Div. 13 when 2007 was adopted, and
may not include all its changes and provisions. (In 2004 Fire Suppression
was moved to its own DIV. 21)(Alarms are in DIV 28)

By the way for those few of you that don't know where the Div. in your bid
doc's come from, it's the "Construction Specification institute
http://www.csinet.org/s_csi/index.asp

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Sornsin
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:12 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: The Engineering Problem (RE: another fire - this will be
interesting)

Amen, Thom!

As a member of the engineering community I completely agree.


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