One of the biggest problems I HAVE WITH Lic. of fitter's is, where is the
accountability?


Dev. Colo.Spg. And Fort Collins require lic. fitters on their projects, and
the state is looking at a similar requirement. 
So a fitter screws up something the AHj tested him on, is he required to fix
it on his dime? Is he required to be bonded? And if the AHJ pulls his Lic.
for his short comings, do you have the right to fire him?

I think everyone knows the answers.
Individual is never liable, it's always the company.
So he fixes his mistakes on your dime.
Plumbers are bonded, why not fitters? (Because usually the master plumber
that holds the Co. lic. is bonded, not every employee. So once again
management pays
Under most state laws loss of a Lic. is not grounds for firing. (But you may
be able to make him a "Helper" since he no longer hold the Lic.)

So what did anyone gain from this exercise in futile rulemaking? (Mo
Govoment Gone Wild!!)

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Residential systems in California - Licensing

In Washington we got the licensing crammed down our throats but the
administration is in the hands of the State FM. Everyone will be tested as
well as have to show proof of experience. Not the best world but a decent
compromise. So we have licensing/certification for installers/trainees,
designers, NFPA 25 inspectors, & contractors, but still not for plan
reviewers or AHJ inspectors. Everybody has to meet uniform criteria and so
far no group gets any special "grandfathering"
apart from temporary certifications so that work can continue during
transitions. These temporary certifications have sunset dates and require
re-certification annually until the sunset date.
Re-certification also requires the holder proving that he is working to meet
the criteria for permanent status.


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