No.
And there's a host of baggage with the site guy.
That's why we ended up doing the flushing, and why we're testing.
He installed the UG system without calling for any inspection so AJ cannot
verify leakage at joints, thrust blocks/megalugs, depth of bury.
Grapevine has it that there was a leaking 90 below a lead-in-
Instead of fixing prior to hydro, they cut in a valve and shut it off.
So I've acknowledged the baggage, but point to a narrow focus despite
whatever else has occurred:
GC hired us to test per #24.
We did and passed with 14 gal allowable leakage when allowance was 72.

So the question remains 
Does the IFC wording 
Test per #24 AND AS ACCEPTED BY THE LOCAL AHJ 
Mean he picks criteria from #24 or does he witness and accept the procedure
we choose?

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of
bver...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:27 PM
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org
Subject: Re: AHJ right or wong?

Did the U/G contractor test with the joints exposed? 

Bruce Verhei 

763-658-4483 
763-658-4921 fax 

Email: chr...@sentryfiremn.com 

Mail: P.O. Box 69 
Waverly, MN 55390 

Location: 4439 Hwy 12 SW 
Waverly, MN 55390 
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[mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of George Church

Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:32 PM 
To: sprinklerforum@firesprinkler.org 
Subject: RE: Spkr Save 

About to get in pssing contest with local AHJ on UG test per #24. 
We sprinklered an 833,000 sf ESFR box, didn't do UG loop. 
Site guy couldn't get test to pass with hydrants closed. 
We were asked to help, and I suggested testing with hydrants open. 
We did that and it passed, only 1/3 allowable leakage allowed. 
However, the local AHJ is refusing to pass it, saying he wants it re-tested 
with hydrants closed the way it went initially. 

I'm about to ask him where he sees that in #24; but the following wording 
"and as approved by the fire code official" in the IFC (see below) might 
give him a leg to stand on. Can any of you agree or disagree? 

Would the below require a local amendment be in place? 
My retainage of >$100k, not to mention the GC's, is hanging in limbo. 

>From IFC 2006 
901.5 Installation acceptance testing. 
Fire detection and alarm systems, fire-extinguishing systems, fire hydrant 
systems, fire standpipe systems, fire pump systems, private fire service 
mains and all other fire protection systems and appurtenances thereto shall 
be subject to acceptance tests as contained in the installation standards 
and as approved by the fire code official. The fire code official shall be 
notified before any required acceptance testing. 

George Church' 
Rowe Sprinkler 
g...@rowesprinkler.com 
570-837-7647 


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