In PACDIV it's 13 only! No reduction for QR, 3000 Sf min. design area.

Thom McMahon, SET
Firetech, Inc.
2560 Copper Ridge Dr
P.O. Box 882136
Steamboat Springs, CO 80488
Tel:  970-879-7952
Fax: 970-879-7926


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 4:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: DOD UFC - 13R System Design (Update)

And if you tried some of that in Southwest Div you'd be laughed out of
the building.   They generally require arbitrarily doubled design areas,
so out here it's an 8-sprinkler design area - corridor or dwelling unit
using residential sprinklers - or .10/3000 sf and it's up to the FPE doing
the review whether or not you can observe a dwelling unit as a "largest
room" design area; hose stream of 100 GPM is required for residential and
250 for light hazard (500 for ordinary); FDC is
required.   AND, if it's a multi-story building then floor controls are
required and if sprinklers are combined with standpipes then they must be
looped, but calculations performed only on the more demanding straight path.

And you have to do the calculations whilst balanced on your left leg (right
leg if you're left-handed) and wearing your cap backwards and shouting,
"Don't worry about costs, the money grows on trees!" 

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting
San Diego, CA



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
[email protected]
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: DoD UFC - 13R System Design (Update)

For those interested in the UFC 3-600-01 design approaches, I received an
informal opinion on the appropriate method to apply NFPA 13R calculation
methods.  Of course this is based on using NFPA 13R for the correct
buildings in the first place.

1.  Inside the dwelling unit use NFPA 13R.
2.  Outside the dwelling unit use NFPA 13R and any references to NFPA 13.
3.  A four head corridor calculation in the dwelling unit is acceptable (see
NFPA 13, Figure A.11.3.1.2).
4.  No hose stream is necessary.

Last, no fire department connection is required.

The project RFP or project plans and specs could overrule any or all of the
above and local installation guidelines might also differ.

Bill Brooks

William N. Brooks, P.E.
Brooks Fire Protection Engineering Inc.
372 Wilett Drive
Severna Park, MD 21146
410-544-3620 Phone
410-544-3032 FAX
412-400-6528 Cell



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