There can be a huge difference between minimum consensus standards and what
we'd do for ourselves- or what FM Global does for their insured. I worked
for Viking of the SouthEast/Crawford & Slaten Co in Atlanta in early 80's
and they had corporate standards they held- an example would be that air
compressors were installed with tanks. This extends the life of the unit by
minimizing short run times and cycling. Sure, added cost. But given the size
of most jobs, incrementally insignificant. And one less service call for a
compressor running what the customer deems "too often" (find THAT in NFPA's
definitions next to often a jockey pump should run) during the warranty
period about evens it up.

There are a lot of things that give our customers added value for small
incremental cost. Many of them would pay the upcharge once they understand
it, if you haven't built it into your job. 13D doesn't require alarms,
assuming interconnected smokes, but we've always installed them as a
redundant alarm (SD's aren't perfect) and for the odd chance something would
activate while they're on vacation. 

Start thinking like this and next thing you know, best practices don't just
make sense, they can make you some extra money and differentiate you from
the competition.

Travis, thanks for illustrating the math- right on the mark.

glc

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of larryshulman
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 8:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: FM rounding and other changes

I've always been under the impression NFPA standards were "consensus
standards" and not "legal standards".  Their use is so widespread that
sometimes we forget about that aspect, and this thread presents a good
opportunity to remind ourselves.  In fact, the NFPA disclaimer states the
following..." In issuing and making NFPA Codes and Standards available, the
NFPA is not undertaking to render professional or other services for or on
behalf of any person or entity. Nor is the NFPA undertaking to perform any
duty owed by any person or entity to someone else. Anyone using NFPA Codes
and Standards should rely on his or her own independent judgment or, as
appropriate, seek the advice of a competent professional in determining the
exercise of reasonable care in any given circumstances".

FM Global standards raise the bar and represent best practice to minimize
property risk to an acceptable level as defined by FM Global and their
client owners.  That is a different intent from the NFPA approach.  

FM Global is in an envious position, because of their decades long basic and
applied research capabilities in fire protection that nobody can match.
Combine this with their loss investigation expertise, and it puts them at a
cutting edge and industry leading position.  The downside is that it puts FM
Global out of sync with the rest of the fire protection industry, and some
sprinkler contractors will complain that they're being asked to do more than
the norm (NFPA).    

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Cahill
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: FM rounding and other changes

Except 13 is the predominant legal standard in the US.  FM can do whatever
they want but no where that I know of are they the legal standard.  

Chris Cahill, P.E.
Fire Protection Engineer
Sentry Fire Protection, Inc.
 

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