Don't despair over the ramblings and musings of those who have seen the picture of the installation. It's just that we in the industry look at something like that and try to figure out the reasoning of the one who came up with the design. The questions aren't necessarily pointed to you, it's just more like thinking out loud.
Thanks for sharing, Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection Specialist Mechanical Department CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive PO Box 491, Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 [email protected] http://www.ch2m.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stewart Kidd Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Membrane dome in Sprinkler Age I'm beginning to regret even mentioning the premises. I have no information at all on the system or the assumptions behind them. I understand that the the protection was installed voluntarily (ie there was no legal requirement to provide protection) when the change of use took place - the skating rink was not previously protected. The photo was taken more than 10/12 years ago and I'm not even sure if the premises are still used for retailing. Can't help further, sorry Stewart On 6 Jul 2009, at 14:22, John Drucker wrote: > So Arup's determination assures that the forementioned sprinkler > protection will operate and control the fire matching the performance > of a typical system where a roof or ceiling barrier is present ?. > > Seems to me the concern would be uncontrolled fire spread to adjacent > contents. > > John Drucker Jr. > Fire Protection Subcode Official > Borough of Red Bank, NJ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stewart > Kidd > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:54 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Membrane dome in Sprinkler Age > > Thomas > > This is not one of my jobs - I have done an insurance review but was > not involved the system design and installation. > > Given the height of the heads and the fuel load and likely fire spread > scenario I believe the fire strategy report prepared by Arup Fire > decided that collectors were unnecessary. > > Regards > > Stewart > > > On 6 Jul 2009, at 00:10, Thomas Watt wrote: > >> Wow...no heat collection necessary eh? >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stewart Kidd" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 6:30 AM >> Subject: Re: Membrane dome in Sprinkler Age >> >> >>> Can't post the file due to restrictions on the size of submissions. >>> Happy to send it to anyone who wants. >>> >>> Stewart >>> On 5 Jul 2009, at 10:44, Haji, Jaber M wrote: >>> >>>> Pls let's share the picture. Thanks in advance. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> [mailto:[email protected] >>>> ] On Behalf Of Stewart Kidd >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 11:58 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Membrane dome in Sprinkler Age >>>> >>>> Frans >>>> >>>> Can't recall the article but there is a UK shopping centre >>>> (converted from a skating rink) which is sprinkler protected using >>>> free standing posts each with three or four arms containing >>>> sprinkler heads. I'll send you a picture off-line. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Stewart >>>> >>>> On 5 Jul 2009, at 01:19, Frans Stoop wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear colleagues, >>>>> >>>>> If my memory serves me right, there was an article in Sprinkler >>>>> Age > >>>>> some years ago about how a contractor installed water monitors >>>>> inside a dome structure. >>>>> Installing sprinklers was impossible because the main structure >>>>> was > >>>>> only an (inflatable?) membrane. >>>>> >>>>> I tried to retrieve that article by digging through old years of >>>>> Sprinkler Age but unfortunately I couldn't find it. >>>>> Or was it in Fire Journal? >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone of you happens to remember that article and can point >>>>> me to the right year and number? >>>>> >>>>> Frans Stoop >>>>> TOS architecture & fire protection Netherlands >>>>> <[email protected]> Tel. +31-24-324 0112 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>>>> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> To Unsubscribe, send an email >>>>> to:[email protected] >>>>> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>>> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe, send an email >>>> to:[email protected] >>>> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >>>> >>>> The contents of this email, including all related responses, files >>>> and attachments transmitted with it (collectively referred to as >>>> "this Email"), are intended solely for the use of the individual/ >>>> entity to whom/which they are addressed, and may contain >>>> confidential and/or legally privileged information. 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