A previous, separate topic reply had said "live by the sword, die by the sword"....
Does the spec also give an importance factor to the trades, i.e. #1 has a guaranteed location, and then #2 can have what's left and available, #3 and so forth? If so, where do the sprinkler main/branch lines come into list (hopefully above duct, but I doubt it)? Not much of an argument if your build everything on Section 1 if Section 2 give you a number in line. If he wants to be low, fine, tell him the highest trades need to install first "It's industry standard", and after everyone else is installed above him then he may install. Why aren't his HVAC units high so the water lines run into the units from the bottom (so sediment does not gunk up the unit) and the condensate lines have plenty of horizontal distance for slope? Or go after the GC for inefficiencies for install since you have to go around all of his stuff, or maybe start asking him to remove parts of the system so you have access for install (a couple unavoidable lift collisions may have an affect also). 8" is not a lot of room for 2x4 light install, what are the lights spec'd at? Have the electrician step in on this. Are there any can lights? Does the ACT guy have the splay wire install issues? Are you installing concealers (unless you're going into the head with a 90), smaller issue with semi-rec? Are there additional hanger issues (tee on the runs, trapezes) because the duct is too wide and the sprinkler location is farther that allowed (change order)? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:02 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Renegade HVAC Contractor I could use a little ammo for an upcoming coordination meeting I have on Monday. We are working on a pretty big school and the HVAC sub (per the spec) is suppose to be spearheading a set of coordination drawings that all subs need to agree on and then sigh off on before "any work can be fabricated or installed". These drawings still have not been completed and are actually not even close to being done. Here's where it gets good: * He has already begun installing his duct and has actually completed a couple wings. (without the approved coordination drawings) * He wants to run all his ductwork 8" above ceiling throughout and says sprinkler pipe needs to run above him, "that's industry standard" !! * He says he's never heard of ductwork being run through the joist, it's always the sprinkler lines that run up high. (this is in areas with ceiling tiles) I could go on and on but I think you get the point, what I would love to have is some hard facts/references that I can provide at the meeting so this doesn't turn into a bigger pissing contest than it already has. I don't dare release our pipe for fab without the drawings being signed off but in the mean time he is installing away! Regards, <http://www.firstdefensefire.com/> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12940 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list http://lists.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
