First in wins, eh?   If anyone asks why you're running there, be sure to
tell 'em, "Calc's".    That stops everything dead in its tracks.

Seriously, the fastest way to get their attention will be to yell "MORE
MONEY!!"    It's like yelling "Snake!" at a girl scout camp.

Right George?

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting
San Diego, CA




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George
Church
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Renegade HVAC Contractor

You could consider just throwing up a couple lengths of pipe alongside
the
big openings on their trunk duct, amking sure you're the size of the
opening
+ 6" away from it so you've accommodated the offsets they'd need to get
around you. Start with the openings just outside the meeting room.

A couple lengths under roof top openings should give them a clue that
you're
serious. In one day you should be able to hang a couple lengths in front
of
several of these, no outlets required, helps you make your point.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fletcher,
Ron
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Renegade HVAC Contractor

At least you are not spending money and time on BIM while all the other
trades are doing installation. Remember the sprinkler creed "install
high install first".

Ron Fletcher
Aero Automatic
Phoenix

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian
Harris
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Renegade HVAC Contractor

I could use a little ammo for an upcoming coordination meeting I have on
Monday. We are working on a pretty big school and the HVAC sub (per the
spec) is suppose to be spearheading a set of coordination drawings that
all subs need to agree on and then sigh off on before "any work can be
fabricated or installed". These drawings still have not been completed
and are actually not even close to being done.
 
Here's where it gets good:

*       He has already begun installing his duct and has actually
completed
a couple wings. (without the approved coordination drawings)
*       He wants to run all his ductwork 8" above ceiling throughout and
says sprinkler pipe needs to run above him, "that's industry standard"
!!
*       He says he's never heard of ductwork being run through the
joist,
it's always the sprinkler lines that run up high. (this is in areas with
ceiling tiles)

I could go on and on but I think you get the point, what I would love to
have is some hard facts/references that I can provide at the meeting so
this doesn't turn into a bigger pissing contest than it already has. I
don't dare release our pipe for fab without the drawings being signed
off but in the mean time he is installing away!
 

Regards,

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