well there is one consideration you could make, Steve.
if you ever need an FPE review on a document, I have one.
And for federal jobs, they don't care what state the PE is in.

I have 24+ continuous years in fire.  and am an FPE in about
half-a-dozen states, none of which border FL, though.

best of the rest of 2010 to you!


s



On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 23:15, Steve Kowkabany <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Jim and Scot,
>
> KY pipe is actually what we are going to use.  I am learning it now and we
> have a couple of experienced users to help me through the process.  It's
> good to hear that it's reliable software.  You always wonder how much
> validation has been done with physical testing for modeling programs like
> this.  It seems like KY Pipe is the industry standard.
>
> Thanks again and have a great week,
>
>
> Steve Kowkabany, P.E.
> Fire Protection Engineer
> Neptune Fire Protection Engineering LLC
> 60 Ocean Boulevard, Suite 15
> Atlantic Beach, FL 32233
> 904-652-4200 Phone
> 904-212-0868 Fax
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim
> Davidson
> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 1:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Surge Calculations
>
> Steve,
>
> I have used the KY-Pipe Surge program to conduct surge pressure transit
> analysis for a large loss in order to defend the sprinkler contractor in US
> Federal Court. This is the only surge program that has had significant peer
> review and realistically models the pressure wave effects including the
> additional pressure that results from the pressure wave crossing itself. It
> can also model pressure surge chambers to determine the effects that a
> curge
> chamber has on the system. If you are using the KY Pipe hydraulic program
> it
> is easy to import, however it is not a problem with building a model from
> scratch. Read the software manual because you will need to know opening
> times for check valves, OS&Y valves and all related valves.
>
> Regards
>
> Jim Davidson, PE
>
> Jim Davidson
>
> Davidson Associates
> Fire Protection * Medical Gas * Code Consulting
> 302-994-9500   Fax:302-234-1781
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve
> Kowkabany
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 6:01 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Surge Calculations
>
> Has anyone ever had to perform a surge analysis to determine the
> water-hammer forces on piping for the purpose of designing pipe restraints
> for a fire protection system supplied by a pump.  We are being asked to
> provide this and the software KY Pipe was recommended.  I'm used to just
> using NFPA 24 for this.  It's a big underground system at an overseas
> manufacturing facility.
>
>
>
> Any insights or recommendations on modeling software would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks and Happy New Years!
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve Kowkabany, P.E.
>
> Fire Protection Engineer
>
> Neptune Fire Protection Engineering LLC
>
> 60 Ocean Boulevard, Suite 15
>
> Atlantic Beach, FL 32233
>
> 904-652-4200 Phone
>
> 904-212-0868 Fax
>
>
>
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