Greg, normally the exterior wall is of sufficient construction as to be
considered "rated" and thus is a separate "fire area" for the purpose of
calculations

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Greg McGahan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Just curious to all of you who know the stats, etc.
>
> I have a very unusual shaped remote are due to an unusual shaped building
> and or protecting small alcoves for an ice machine, wash down area, small
> loading dock, etc.
>
> Question:  How often do sprinklers activate on both the exterior and
> interior of a noncombustible building? Is it common? Should they be included
> in the interior calcs?
>
> Doesn't kill us either way, but I am curious.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg McGahan
> Operations Manager
>
> Living Water Fire Protection
> 1160 McKenzie Road
> P.O. Box 877
> Cantonment, Florida 32533
> (850) 937.1850 | Fax (850) 937.1852 | Cell (850) 554.3231
> [email protected]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:34 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Antifreeze Backflow Prevention
>
> J.
>
> I believe you need the loop per 13. The testable backflow device, DCVA
> or RPBA, would be a health code requirement as administered by the
> cross connection specialist for the water purveyor. 13 would then
> allow deletion of the loop but require the expansion tank.
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Jay Jay Blocker
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Using NFPA 13 (2007 thus the reason for my question) I cannot find
> anything saying that using a swing check valve at the end of a wet system
> and transitioning to a glycol system is allowed.  Basically 1 section of a
> parking garage is exposed to cold temps when the garage door opens.  Door
> failed to shut and several freeze breaks happened.  The question has been
> asked if adding a separate control valve before a single check valve at the
> end of the wet system and turning it into antifreeze (without a rpz or a
> loop) was an option.  I don't see where this is an option by
> 7.6 anywhere.  I feel like I'm missing something here.  Are any of the older
> editions of 13 saying this is allowed or am I looking in the wrong spot?
> >
> > J. Blocker
> > EFPS
> > (303) 353-9712
> >
> >
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