I'm peddling as fast as I can........
At 04:08 PM 1/27/2010, you wrote: >Bruce, > >Maybe you could give us all a list as to what is essential to you as a >plane reviewer. Todd, Can't you do it faster than "over the weekend?" >}:-) > >On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:14 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Bill, > > > > If a second person is going to review the plans design criteria > documentation is crucial. Most projects have a time element. > Without this portion of a submittal plan review doesn't start. Why > look at pipe hangers or bracing if the design criteria hasn't been affirmed? > > > > Plan reviewers review plans - they don't reverse engineer. > > > > I would also guess that occasionally the designer finds some > error during the process of writing down the criteria, and self-corrects. > > > > Structural engineers don't just show how big a beam they are > going to use, and what kind of connections. They show the > calculations used to show that in accordance with generally > accepted stardards, the beam and connections are adequate. > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > Bruce Verhei > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Brooks" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:12:57 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > > Subject: How the Heck Did You Come Up With 0.58 over 2000? > > > > Wouldn't it be nice if sprinkler shop drawings for storage > occupancies included a table or other method to show the derivation > of the design density/area of coverage/head selection etc. As a > suggestion, a table with the following data: > > > > Storage arrangement - Racks (single row, etc), shelf, bin box, > solid pile, etc > > Rack height - > > Storage height - > > Shelf type - > > Aisle width - > > Commodity class - > > In-rack sprinklers - > > NFPA 13 table - > > NFPA 13 curve - > > Correction for height - > > > > In other words, show the steps used by the designer to get to the > selected design parameters. > > > > Bill Brooks > > > > William N. Brooks, P.E. > > Brooks Fire Protection Engineering Inc. > > 372 Wilett Drive > > Severna Park, MD 21146-1904 > > 410-544-3620 > > 410-544-3032 FAX > > 412-400-6528 Cell > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > > > > > >-- >Ron Greenman >Instructor >Fire Protection Engineering >Bates Technical College >Tacoma, WA > >Member: >SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA AFAA, WSAFM >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, Connecticut www.fpdc.com 860.535.2080 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
