I'm trying to get some  better plans of the whole thing.  FP plans are sketchy.

 The plan is for the local FD to attach a pumper truck to the standpipe system 
when needed and pull from local on-shore hydrant for source.

All the local FD wants at the remote connection is 250 gpm at 100 psi, so no 
great demand.

CH2MHILL/SPB
Craig Prahl
8640599-4102
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[[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Flexible Pipe

Is this a floating pier. If it is and it's on a lake you can do a
double swing joint (one on the horizontal plane and the other on the
vertical plane) at the shore and at the pier and you should have
enough movement sans tide but it will probably leak at those points
over time. No big deal on a dry standpipe as you just crank the engine
pump up. If you have tide Metraflex might be the only solution. If
you're on the Bay of Fundy you may need a couple of break tanks and a
pump on the pier. You can always just "pour" the one tank into the
other.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:18 AM, George Church <[email protected]> wrote:
> Can't use hard pipe to make the bends....
> Has he tried using those "elbow" thingies we often put on the end of a pipe
> if we want to make a bend? They're far faster and more predictable than
> bending the pipe.
>
> Otherwise, if they're trying to make an odd angle and can't use a pair of
> 90's to make a swing, a metraflex type of connection - far less than 10'
> long, could do the trick.
>
> Friction loss not an issue? Not to mention, cost of a 4" diam 10' long
> flexdrop.
>
> glc
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 10:03 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Flexible Pipe
>
> Yeah you read this right.
>
> I'm reviewing a pacakge and the EOR has called out for flexible pipe at a
> couple of areas where he thinks they can't use hard pipe to make the bends,
> plus he is wanting some allowance for movement.  This is on a pier.
>
> So I've hunted even though in all my years dabbling in this I can't recall
> such an animal.  Flexible connections and flexible drops are one thing but a
> 10-20 ft section of "flexible" pipe?
>
> Anyone ever heard or seen such a thing?
>
> He's not called out any manufacturer and is out of town right now so I can't
> ask what he had in mind.
>
> It's not a sprinkler system,  it's a 4" manual, dry standpipe line along the
> pier.
>
>
> CH2MHILL/SPB
> Craig Prahl
> 864-599-4102
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Bates Technical College
Tacoma, WA

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