The penetration of a combined riser, floor control arrangement is accepted, it 
is not considered a pass through proposal.

Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 09:19
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Stairways

So where do the floor controls go if you've got a combined system?
Vestibules in a high rise but what if there aren't smoke proof ancillary
spaces?

Steve Leyton
Protection Design & Consulting
San Diego, CA




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Richardson, R
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Stairways

Be careful with this one, in Seattle the Building Official does not
allow sprinkler pipe penetrations of stairways unless is strictly to
serve a sprinkler in the space (eg: no pass through arrangements).

Rich Richardson
Seattle Fire Department

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian
Harris
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 07:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Stairways

Reed-

So if it's a single stairway I can pass my sprinkler pipe straight
through,
awesome. I've always routed the pipe out and around a stairway. Thanks
for
the info. 


Brian Harris
FDFP INC.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Reed
Roisum
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 10:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Stairways

In the Vertical Exit Enclosures section (1020) of IBC 2006 it says that
penetrations are prohibited except for ...sprinkler piping....

1020.1.2 Penetrations. Penetrations into and openings through an exit
enclosure are prohibited except for required exit doors, equipment and
ductwork necessary for independent pressurization, sprinkler piping,
standpipes, electrical raceway for fire department communication systems
and
electrical raceway serving the exit enclosure and terminating at a steel
box
not exceeding 16 square inches (0.010 m2). Such penetrations shall be
protected in accordance with Section 712. There shall be no penetrations
or
communication openings, whether protected or not, between adjacent exit
enclosures.

Is that what you are thinking of?



Reed A. Roisum, CET
Ulteig Engineers, Inc.
Engineering Technician

Direct: (701)280-8580
Cell: (701)212-8810




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian
Harris
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Stairways

Forum,
I've always been taught that you cannot pass a pipe through a stairway,
can
someone point me to that section in the code book and or give me your
thoughts on it?


Regards,

bh


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