Chris,

I think its because CRR isn't directly related to wall thickness.  I was
always led to believe that its simply a measure of pipe life in relation to
SCH 40 threaded pipe.  Thats why products like megathread and dynathread
have a much higher carbon content in the steel, so they tend to resist
corrosion much better. On the other hand, non-threadable lightwall has a
much higher CRR as you're not cutting material out of the wall.

Like I said, that's what I've always been led to believe.

Benjamin Young



On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Chris Cahill <[email protected]>wrote:

> Relating to CRR sounds reasonable.  Is there anything threadable that has a
> CRR of 1 or greater that is not sched 40?  Wheatland GL is 0.61 to 0.25 for
> 1"-2" for example.  XL has virtually the same ID but no CRR listed but it
> must be the same as GL.
>
> Now Dyna Thread is interesting.  CRR stated of 1 but 3.6% larger ID than
> sched 40.  Not sure I follow that though. If the wall is less than sched 40
> how can it have a CRR of 1?  If it's 3.6% less seems based on the formula
> CRR = (X/X40)^3 should be a CRR of about 0.9.  OK that's much better than
> 0.61 BUT it's NOT 1.
>
> Chris Cahill, P.E.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Kramer
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:52 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: threaded thinwall hanger spacing
>
> Max hanger spacing is covered in section 9.22 and Table 9.2.2.1(a) (NFPA 13
> 2010).  Threaded thinwall pipe has a max hanger spacing less than other
> steel pipe in sizes 1 1/2" to 3".
>
>
>
> Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but is there a clear definition of
> "thinwall"?
> I've always assumed it meant any pipe with a wall thickness less than sched
> 40/sched 30.  Today I read the commentary in the handbook that follows
> 9.2.2.1 - it says hangers on threaded thinwall need to be spaced closer
> together "because of the reduced remaining pipe wall thickness between the
> inside diameter and the thread root diameter".  That sounds very similar to
> Corrosion Resistance Ratio (CRR).
>
>
>
> So if my threaded "thinwall" has a CRR of 1.0 or greater, is it "thinwall"
> in the context of 9.2.2.1?  In other words, does the reduced hanger spacing
> apply?
>
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>
> Ed Kramer
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> Littleton, CO
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