Have you all seen pictures of what happened when there was a problem. We are not talking a fire but some serious explosion. At some point we just have to do what is right. There are more possible TIA's ion the wings that address the fact that antifreezes are sometime used in restaurants and lodges and other areas that a group of people gather. NFPA did not takes these areas into consideration and they should have considered. I believe key is to allow premix glycerin only at 50% max. It is important to note that you cannot properly mix in field the same way a chemical processor can do.
We need to design away from this stuff and it can be done. There are many contractors that do not use antifreeze. It is important to remember that in homes which will not be inspected or maintained having antifreeze, backflow, expansion tanks etc. will be a problem and a black eye for our industry. We are going to need help from AHJ's who want sprinklers in unheated areas and from builders who do not want to give us a soffit to properly insulate pipe. Tell both no and get it in writing with builder he is responsible for freeze if he will not help. Top Myers RelMark Group 961 Pottstown Pike Chester Springs, PA 19425 610-321-2415 X-219 Cell 610-952-0965 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 4:01 PM To: Todd Williams; [email protected] Subject: Re: Anti Freeze for commercial Is it really necessary to remove every head? It will be diluted after being drained and refilled with water. Its not like we're working with gasoline. Forest Wilson Cherokee Fire Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Todd Williams" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, Sep 15, 2010 1:30 pm Subject: Anti Freeze for commercial To: <[email protected]> If you take the heads out and let the stuff spill on the floor. I don't know if it would have enough suction to be reliable. At 01:25 PM 9/15/2010, you wrote: >Can you safely use a wet dry vacuum to make sure you get all of the >antifreeze out of a residential system? > >Or is that a stupid question? > >Greg >On 9/15/2010 10:57 AM, Todd Williams wrote: >>Maybe your cell mate, Dominick "The Hammer", could caddy for you. >> >> >>At 11:28 AM 9/15/2010, you wrote: >> >> >>> >>> a-strip you of your assets >>> b-put u in jail >>> >>>any questions? >>> >>>glc >>> >>>Not having any assets worth taking, I'm looking for a new retirement plan, >>>so I have a question: >>> >>>Would that be one of those nice Fed. Jails with a golf course and tennis? >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>[email protected] >>>http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >>> >>>For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >>> >>>To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >>>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> >>Todd G. Williams, PE >>Fire Protection Design/Consulting >>Stonington, CT >>860.535.2080 >>www.fpdc.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sprinklerforum mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >>For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >>To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >>(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > >-- >Greg C. McGahan Living Water Fire Protection, LLC. 1160 McKenzie >Road Cantonment, FL 32533 850-937-1850 Fax 850-937-1852 >_______________________________________________ >Sprinklerforum mailing list >[email protected] >http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > >For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] >(Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) Todd G. Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 860.535.2080 www.fpdc.com _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
