Matt- it never was 'up for consideration' as a possible resolution- just another one of my hair-brained hypotheticals- (my latest for solving the AF problem was inspired by G as he ripped me to shreds- I call it Mexican Jumping Water- moving water is harder to freeze). I have no problem with doing things the way they have always been done, but being level 4, I feel bad when someone asks me why I am doing something that way, the only reason I can give them is "Because that is how it is has always been done". This industry needs, young, original thinkers, and old, stodgy thinkers both.
-----Original Message----- From: Ron Greenman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Calcium Chloride antifreeze protection Matt, It corrodes steel, it leaks, it's not listed for the use, it's not one of the few acceptable chemicals allowed in 13 . You make your call from info like that. Ethylene glycol lowers the freezing point of water but is poison. Sugar does also but it's a long strand carbon molecule that will burn.. Gasoline freezes at a much lower temperature than water but is probably not a good solution to the problem. Like our discussion on centrifugal pumps and raising water with Rube Goldberg solutions: what George said--you can but that doesn't necessarily mean you should. On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Matt Grise <[email protected]> wrote: > I know we have gone over this in previous emails, but I could not find one that ever mentioned a resolution. > > Other than the corrosion/ seepage concerns for steel piping, was there any finding on whether or not it was ok to use CaCl as an anti-freeze additive? > > Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP > Sales Engineer > Alliance Fire Protection > *Licensed in KS & MO > > 913.888.0647 ph > 913.888.0618 f > 913.927.0222 cell > www. AFPsprink.com > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] > > To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] > (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: AFSA, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, NFSA, AFAA, ASEE, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] To Unsubscribe, send an email to:[email protected] (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field)
