Like our friend's brilliant son's formula for solving calcs without trial
and error.
Asked why we use trial and error instead of just solving it, and worked on
the formula until he got it right.
A rocket scientist in our business couldn't find fault with it.
 A lot of midnight oil but Cecil will someday be teaching a class on
hydraulic calcs and teach students a formula named after his son who
developed it. Skyman is a chip off the old Cecil. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thom
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:16 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Calcium Chloride antifreeze protection

So what your saying is when you run into something in the code or standard
that has been there a while, you question if this is the only way to do it?
That's always a good start, but for things to change you also have to be
willing to follow thru and do the research, testing and get the "Proof" that
your alternative will perform as well as or better than the existing
approved practice, and then commit to that all important step---Submit it
for review (Proposal to NFPA)

We all have what we consider "Good" ideas from time to time, but how many of
us follow thru?

Follow thru on finding a new safe antifreeze, and then name it after
yourself, or your dog or a beloved member of this forum. But you can't even
consider what to name it until you've paid the due's.

Thom

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Calcium Chloride antifreeze protection

Matt- it never was 'up for consideration' as a possible resolution- just
another one of my hair-brained hypotheticals- (my latest for solving the AF
problem was inspired by G as he ripped me to shreds- I call it Mexican
Jumping Water- moving water is harder to freeze). I have no problem with
doing things the way they have always been done, but being level 4, I feel
bad when someone asks me why I am doing something that way, the only reason
I can give them is "Because that is how it is has always been done". This
industry needs, young, original thinkers, and old, stodgy thinkers both.   


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