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On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Todd Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
> I did a pilot spec for an inner city housing project where I included
> institutional products (no sprinks, just alarms and FE cabinets). But then
> there were twice as many murders in that project as there were in the county
> I live in that year.
>
>
>
> At 09:55 AM 11/10/2010, you wrote:
>>
>> Yep it is a frat house.  I am trying to convince the arch to go with the
>> concealed type res sprinklers.
>> The only place we would have to use semi-recessed is when throwing
>> across the 4/12 ceilings.
>> Thanks for the information.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George
>> Church
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:57 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: QR sprinklers in R2 occupancy
>>
>> Correct. And if the total # of heads in a dwelling unit is 4, you can
>> QR.
>> Finally, someone treating a fraternity commiserate with the exposure?
>> Or would concealed heads be enough protection from mechanical injury so
>> you could use the residential heads you should use?
>> Threat of someone hanging themselves?
>> Don't forget you'll need .1 for the QRs vrs .05.
>>
>> glc
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dewayne
>> Martinez
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:28 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: QR sprinklers in R2 occupancy
>>
>> I have a R2 occupancy that is to be sprinklered per NFPA13R (07ed).  The
>> architect wants to use quick response institutional sprinklers.
>> It appears that per 6.7.7.1.3 I can use QR sprinklers inside the
>> dwelling unit only if it meets the definition of a compartment with no
>> more than 4 sprinklers.  If the dwelling unit contains multiple rooms
>> (ie:
>> bathroom, kitchen, ect.) then this unit would not qualify because it is
>> not single compartment correct?  What if with all the compartments
>> together there would only be 4 sprinklers?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dewayne Martinez
>> Design Build Fire Protection
>> New Berlin, WI
>> <http://www.designbuildfire.com/>
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> Todd G. Williams, PE
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> Stonington, CT
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