As well, CCSS sprinklers are not listed for this type of protection. Light hazard only.
BK -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Paint spray booth And I concur with all. Yes to sprinklered and no to CC heads but not because it is non-combustible, but because it is part of the duct/plenum assembly. On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:17 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > The spray area needs to be sprinklered. The spray area is the booth > and the entire run of duct work (plenum). > > John Hoffman P.E. | Fire Protection Engineer | Facility Engineering > Services, KCP, LLC - Burns & McDonnell Engineering | National Nuclear > Security Administration's Kansas City Plant | Operated by Honeywell > FM&T | > 2000 E. 95th St | Kansas City, MO 64131 | ph 816-997-7213 | > [email protected] > > > > From: "A.P.Silva" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Date: 11/11/2010 12:28 PM > > Subject: RE: Paint spray booth > > Sent by: [email protected] > > > > > > > Thanks, my thoughts are the same, but wanted to see how the rest > interpreted the code, as it is a bit ambiguous. > > Another question on spray booths. This is a downdraft booth. The booth > floor will be a open mesh steel grill, with a concrete air plenum > below it. The air from the booth will exhaust into the air plenum > below floor level and up thru' an exhaust duct. My question is will > the air plenum below the floor level, have to be sprinklered, based on > a open grate flooring, over 4 feet wide? Or not sprinklered, based on > over 70% open, open-grid ceiling? > > If required to be sprinklered, and the space is less than 3 feet high, > will combustible concealed space sprinklers be required. The space is > non-combustible and the quick response CC heads are not listed for > extra hazard applications. Will that suffice to argue for using > standard sprinklers, although the spray pattern may not be optimal? > > Tony > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron > Greenman > Sent: November 10, 2010 4:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Paint spray booth > > One for all. The purpose is the same as a for a cooking line with > water. To shut down the sub-system for head changing (scheduled > maintenance or emergency maintenance) without needing to shut down and > drain the entire system. You could possibly get push back from an AHJ > wanting one per hood but I'd argue my point and then if that failed > argue to avoid a separate one for mixing room. > > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:54 PM, A.P.Silva <[email protected]> wrote: >> NFPA 13, 2007 section 21.4.1.5 : The sprinkler system for each spray >> area and mixing room shall be controlled by a separate, listed >> indicating valve(s), operable from the floor. >> >> I have two spray booths and a mixing booth side by side. Can one >> valve supply the three booths or are three valves required, one per booth? >> >> Tony >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum >> >> For Technical Assistance, send an email to: [email protected] >> >> To Unsubscribe, send an email >> to:[email protected] >> (Put the word unsubscribe in the subject field) >> > > > > -- > Ron Greenman > Instructor > Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College > 1101 So. 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