I don't concur with the statement they don't have a stellar success rate.  In 
some sprinkler research I found a statistically significant number of fires put 
out with extinguishers in SPRINKLERED buildings.  We including I often speak of 
the holy grail of sprinklers but these very cheap cousins are valuable.  I 
guarantee they have put out more fires than fires alarms with all the strobes 
and costs. And lost in the data is a fire knocked down so it's smaller than 
would have been when the FD arrived.

Chris
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one challenge with fire extinguishers is --they don't have a stellar success
rate.
    a lot are just small single-shot, if we even got someone available.
    Britain is considering doing away with fire extinguishers in some office
buildings,
    but that is another issue,  and for another root cause that I won't
    divert to here;  I doubt the issue will be adopted either.

what happens if there is a fire, and no one is around?
can we tolerate having the fire burn through plastic seals, or wires that
  controls dampers, fans, door locks, etc. and thus possibly
  lose negative pressurization and disperse room contents with the smoke?
maybe there is simply not enough to burn in the laboratory to begin with,
  for instance, are all containers glassware or metal?  Are there no ketone
or
  alcohol solvents and disinfectants?  Are there no incubation, evaporation
  or fermentation operations?  Does the vivarium contain non-combustible
  caging?   Maybe too much to consider, but someone (perhaps at a higher
level)
  needs to be given notice as to whether release of pathogenic aerosols
because
  of insufficient fire protection is a tolerable risk.  Included in that
consideration
  is the crass realization that a fire in such a facility will not draw the
scrutiny
  or publicity that a nuclear accident will, as long as the collateral
damage or kill
  is low enough -- or no nexus is made as to the origin of the stuff.

scot deal
excelsior fire
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