Ah there's the rub.   This is a multi-building manufacturing site.  HUGE!   A 
mixture of very large buildings and some not so large, multi-story and single 
story.  But a single story could be 50 ft high.   The problem is that the pump 
is overdesigned.  Not sure if the municipal supply changed or just a bad pump 
selection.  Either way doesn't matter.  Already been told that they will not 
make any changes to the pumps.  So, any corrective action will be provided at 
the risers.

They have a standard that dictates that buildings be zoned and that each zone 
is served by a separate riser.  Case in point, a new 2-story, 60 ft high, 
60,000 total sq. ft. building has 8 system risers fed off two manifolds, one at 
each end of the 300ft long building.  I can't do combination standpipe risers 
either.  

Welcome to my world.................

Craig P



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Grise
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:25 AM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Pressure reducing valves on system risers

What is the building like? (are there upper floors that wont need PRV's?) what 
is the water supply like?

Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP 
Sales Engineer 
Alliance Fire Protection 
130 w 9th Ave.
North Kansas City, MO 64116

*Licensed in KS & MO 

913.888.0647 ph 
913.888.0618 f 
913.927.0222 cell 
www. AFPsprink.com 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Pressure reducing valves on system risers

Got a major client whose system was poorly designed.  They have their jockey 
pump set for about 200 psi and their main fire pump is putting out 180-190 psi. 
 The local fire marshal has mandated that they provide pressure reducing valves 
on the system risers for all new systems.  Anyone ever done this?  Any 
recommendations?

Forget about doing the logical thing and looking at the pump, there is very 
little common sense here and the process of change is long and painful.

Craig P


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