Yes Ed, I should of covered all that

Blazemaster system, wet system and never had antifreeze of any type in it.
Substance is evident on the drywall, sprinkler and cover plate inside and
out.
Will likely cut some gyproc in a day or two and see if any substance evident
above the sprinkler or something.  No substance evident on anything else in
the house.

Substance is on a few sprinklers in the house, not all on the same floor or
area.  Not all sprinklers have the substance evident.

All I can think of for additional details at the moment.


Thanks
David Killey, 
Fire Busters Inc
7887 114A St
Delta, B.C., V4C 5L8
604-599-4499-ph
604-599-4319-fax
www.firebusters.com
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Kramer
Sent: October 17, 2011 4:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Blue substance

More of the install details might help us. What type of pipe was used?  What
was the exact location of the liquid - on the sprinkler itself, on the
inside of the cover plate, on the outside of the cover plate, etc?  System
filled with water or antifreeze?  Was the system tested with antifreeze?
Anything else you think might ring a bell with the forum-world.

Ed Kramer
Littleton, CO

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Killey
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 5:24 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Blue substance
> 
> We have a residential home with a finished install from about 6 months
> ago.
> Sprinklers heads are flat concealed residential.  We got a call of a
> blue
> liquid at and around the sprinkler heads.  We had the liquid tested and
> were
> given the following information from the chemical engineer that looked
> at it
> for us.
> 
> 
> 
> We have the FTIR spectrum of the substance. It is a close match the
> following chemicals:
> 
> 1) methyl alkyl imidazoline sodium salt
> 
> 2) Deteric LF 35
> 
> 3) Tyzor
> 
> 
> 
> (1) appears to be an ingredient of water based alkaline cleaners. It may
> also be an ingredient in pesticides used in oil storage tanks as a
> microbiocide.
> 
> 
> 
> (2) is a trade name for a cleaner containing (1), made by a company
> called
> DeForest.
> 
> 
> 
> (3) is a chemical used in plastics production, but is pale yellow in
> colour
> and may crystallize rather than remaining a liquid.
> 
> 
> 
> Just wondering if anyone has ever run across this or something similar?
> It
> doesn't make sense and we are at a loss to find a plausible solution as
> to
> why the liquid would have been applied to the sprinklers.  Anything can
> happen with a homeowner, but I can't see him using some sort of cleaning
> solution on the sprinklers, having them go a blue color and then call us
> and
> blame us for something wrong on the sprinklers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> David Killey,
> 
> Fire Busters Inc
> 
> 7887 114A St
> 
> Delta, B.C., V4C 5L8
> 
> 604-599-4499-ph
> 
> 604-599-4319-fax
> 
> www.firebusters.com
> 
> [email protected]
> 
> 
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