Have a similar thing going on here. Pipe started deteriorating and after
much denial the homeowner finally admitted to spraying the entire framework
with a fungicide on a weekend before the framing/cover inspection. I don't
know if a blue liquid was present, I just have this bit of information.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:01 PM, David Killey <[email protected]>wrote:

> Yes Ed, I should of covered all that
>
> Blazemaster system, wet system and never had antifreeze of any type in it.
> Substance is evident on the drywall, sprinkler and cover plate inside and
> out.
> Will likely cut some gyproc in a day or two and see if any substance
> evident
> above the sprinkler or something.  No substance evident on anything else in
> the house.
>
> Substance is on a few sprinklers in the house, not all on the same floor or
> area.  Not all sprinklers have the substance evident.
>
> All I can think of for additional details at the moment.
>
>
> Thanks
> David Killey,
> Fire Busters Inc
> 7887 114A St
> Delta, B.C., V4C 5L8
> 604-599-4499-ph
> 604-599-4319-fax
> www.firebusters.com
> [email protected]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Kramer
> Sent: October 17, 2011 4:57 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Blue substance
>
> More of the install details might help us. What type of pipe was used?
>  What
> was the exact location of the liquid - on the sprinkler itself, on the
> inside of the cover plate, on the outside of the cover plate, etc?  System
> filled with water or antifreeze?  Was the system tested with antifreeze?
> Anything else you think might ring a bell with the forum-world.
>
> Ed Kramer
> Littleton, CO
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:sprinklerforum-
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of David Killey
> > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 5:24 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Blue substance
> >
> > We have a residential home with a finished install from about 6 months
> > ago.
> > Sprinklers heads are flat concealed residential.  We got a call of a
> > blue
> > liquid at and around the sprinkler heads.  We had the liquid tested and
> > were
> > given the following information from the chemical engineer that looked
> > at it
> > for us.
> >
> >
> >
> > We have the FTIR spectrum of the substance. It is a close match the
> > following chemicals:
> >
> > 1) methyl alkyl imidazoline sodium salt
> >
> > 2) Deteric LF 35
> >
> > 3) Tyzor
> >
> >
> >
> > (1) appears to be an ingredient of water based alkaline cleaners. It may
> > also be an ingredient in pesticides used in oil storage tanks as a
> > microbiocide.
> >
> >
> >
> > (2) is a trade name for a cleaner containing (1), made by a company
> > called
> > DeForest.
> >
> >
> >
> > (3) is a chemical used in plastics production, but is pale yellow in
> > colour
> > and may crystallize rather than remaining a liquid.
> >
> >
> >
> > Just wondering if anyone has ever run across this or something similar?
> > It
> > doesn't make sense and we are at a loss to find a plausible solution as
> > to
> > why the liquid would have been applied to the sprinklers.  Anything can
> > happen with a homeowner, but I can't see him using some sort of cleaning
> > solution on the sprinklers, having them go a blue color and then call us
> > and
> > blame us for something wrong on the sprinklers.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > David Killey,
> >
> > Fire Busters Inc
> >
> > 7887 114A St
> >
> > Delta, B.C., V4C 5L8
> >
> > 604-599-4499-ph
> >
> > 604-599-4319-fax
> >
> > www.firebusters.com
> >
> > [email protected]
> >
> >
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