Re: Residential Sprinkler in I-2

Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:10:35 -0700

This particular project is coming down to the AHJ stating that the resident's rooms are not dwelling units. They are 1-2 bedroom units with a bathroom and closets. It looks like a typical hotel room. So, when is a dwelling unit not a dwelling unit. That is the question. This is a long term care facility. We have no idea where this plan reviewer is coming from. 

On 10/31/2011 2:06 PM, Ron Greenman wrote:

Duane,

The exceptions allowing 13R and 13D are not referring to the residential
head language but to the "throughout." 13 says sprinklers everywhere and
13R and 13D have allowances for unsprinklered areas so if your particular
I-2 falls within a provision that would allow 13R or 13D you can then
follow those guidelines and ignore the throughout.

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C]<
[email protected]>  wrote:


Then Chapters 32/33 for Residential Board and Care chapters are
applicable...IF NFPA 101 is applicable.  Section 32.2.3.5.1 has similar
verbiage as noted below by Jack.  You should read the next few paragraphs
as they go into detail when, where and what else is required for the 13,
13R and 13D design choices.

Duane Johnson, PE
Program Manager
Division of the Fire Marshal (Support Contractor)
Office of Research Services
National Institutes of Health
301-496-0487

"Protecting Science - One Sprinkler at a Time"


-----Original Message-----
From: Travis Mack, SET [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 12:10 PM
To: Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Residential Sprinkler in I-2

it is a memory care facility.

On 10/31/2011 9:08 AM, Johnson, Duane (NIH/OD/ORS) [C] wrote:

What is the occupancy?  I-2 does not necessarily parallel with NFPA 101

Health Care chapters.

Duane Johnson, PE
Program Manager
Division of the Fire Marshal (Support Contractor)
Office of Research Services
National Institutes of Health
301-496-0487

"Protecting Science - One Sprinkler at a Time"


-----Original Message-----
From: Fairchild, Jack [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 12:06 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Residential Sprinkler in I-2

NFPA 101,2006 allows it.  Chapter 18 New Health Care Facilities

18.3.5.5*  Listed quick-response or listed residential sprinklers shall

be used throughout smoke compartments containing patient sleeping rooms.

A.18.3.5.5 The requirements for use of quick-response sprinklers intend

that quick-response sprinklers be the predominant type of sprinkler
installed in the smoke compartment. It is recognized, however, that
quick-response sprinklers might not be approved for installation in all
areas such as those where NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of
Sprinkler Systems, requires sprinklers of the intermediate- or
high-temperature classification. It is not the intent of the 18.3.5.5
requirements to prohibit the use of standard sprinklers in limited areas of
a smoke compartment where intermediate- or high-temperature sprinklers are
required.

Where the installation of quick-response sprinklers is impracticable in

patient sleeping room areas, appropriate equivalent protection features
acceptable to the authority having jurisdiction should be provided. It is
recognized that the use of quick-response sprinklers might be limited in
facilities housing certain types of patients or by the installation
limitations of quick-response sprinklers.

You should also check NFPA 99.

Jack Fairchild, CFPS  |  Manager of Fire Protection and Life Safety  |

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