Seems like we beat this horse before and that some AHJs recognize everything but the swivels as being standard fasteners which is why Sammy got just those listed. My memory may be less than spot on though.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Bobby Gillett < [email protected]> wrote: > I appreciate the feedback. > > Bobby Gillett > Sr. Project Manager > Key Fire Protection, Inc. > (731) 424-0130 office (731) 424-9285 fax > (731) 267-4853 cell > www.keyfireprotection.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis > Mack, > SET > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: SAMMY XPRESS > > I just got off the phone with the tech rep from Sammy. He initially > stated that the Xpress were listed for seismic applications. But, upon > further looking at their site with him while on the phone, it appears > that only the sammy xpress _swivel _have the listings for use in seismic > areas. It seems strange since both use the same anchoring attachments, > but the regular XPRESS does not have the swivel. So, take that for what > it is worth, as that was my understanding of the phone call that I just > had. > > On 4/3/2012 10:41 AM, Bobby Gillett wrote: > > Travis, > > > > If you contact ITW Buildex about this, will you share your results with > the > > forum or myself please? > > > > Thank you, > > > > Bobby Gillett > > Sr. Project Manager > > Key Fire Protection, Inc. > > (731) 424-0130 office (731) 424-9285 fax > > (731) 267-4853 cell > > www.keyfireprotection.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve > Leyton > > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:19 PM > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > Subject: RE: SAMMY XPRESS > > > > T-Mack: > > > > I HIGHLY recommend you directly contact the manufacturer. Some time > back, > > Sammy's chose not to pursue ICC ESR listing for many of their products > and > I > > think that the Xpress is one of them. This caused them no small measure > of > > pain with California state agencies such as DSA and OSHPD, as those AHJ's > > are looking very specifically for listings that encompass seismically > > engineered applications. We can't use express hangers on unreinforced > metal > > decks on schools and hospitals as a result. I know that the company has > > corresponded with DSA senior supervisors in Sacramento and they wrestled > > with these issues a couple years ago in a big way. I do not know the > > current status of their products in this regard, which is why I suggest > to > > call them directly and ask very specifically what the status might be, > > including range of applications for which they have documented listings > and > > approvals. > > > > Steve > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: [email protected] on behalf of Travis Mack, > SET > > Sent: Tue 4/3/2012 9:52 AM > > To: '[email protected]' > > Subject: SAMMY XPRESS > > > > > > > > Can Sammy Xpress hangers be used in seismic areas? I can't find > > anything that says yes or no on the Sammy site. > > > > -- > > Please feel free to call if you have any questions or comments. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Travis Mack, SET > > MFP Design, LLC > > 2508 E Lodgepole Drive > > Gilbert, AZ 85298 > > Office (480) 505-9271 > > Fax (866) 430-6107 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: winmail.dat > > Type: application/ms-tnef > > Size: 4397 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: > > > < > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachment > > s/20120403/6acc8e01/attachment.bin> > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4911 - Release Date: 04/02/12 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > < > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachment > s/20120404/d65988c4/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4914 - Release Date: 04/04/12 > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. 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