The waste truck facility I most recently reviewed had a CNG compressor. They 
buy electricity and natural gas, compress it. The compressors were in a 
dedicated modular building. Think similar to a shipping container. They were 
FOB Chilliwack. CNG as such is not delivered to the site.

But I'm digressing from Dave's concerns.

The IFC does a fairly good job of dealing with CNG repair garages.  Not 
familiar with the NBC.

BV

-----Original message-----
From: Steve Leyton <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, Dec 17, 2012 23:51:12 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: Bus repair garage

Good point, and which would likely point to a CNG storage shed or yard, and a 
fuel transfer island or area.   Being in CA, we would expect to fire protect 
those areas under state amendments, even if they were nothing more than 
free-standing covers or shade structures.


Steve Leyton



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Verhei
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 3:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bus repair garage

Dave:

I'd also ask, or expect that buses will include CNG fuel.

I don't think this changes it, but I'd look it up. 

I don't have standards in front of me, but my expectations would be increased 
fire frequency compared to a parking garage, but decreased heat output. In a 
garage vehicles are separated to provide room to work. In a parking garage 
separation is so mirrors don't hit and drivers can access the door. More fuel 
per area. 

Almost all 13 density criteria are aimed at heat output, not frequency of fire.

Joyeaux Noel,

Bv

-----Original message-----
From: David Bitton <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, Dec 17, 2012 22:18:34 GMT+00:00
Subject: Bus repair garage

How would you classify a bus repair garage according to NFPA 13?  FM Global 
Data Sheet 3-26 classifies it as Hazard Category 3, or 0.30/2,500, which is 
equivalent to Extra-Hazard Group 1.  This would put it in the same category as 
aircraft hangers, particle board manufacturing plants, and print shops that use 
low flash point inks.  Seems excessive to me.

 

David Bitton, ing.

Quest Loss Control Services Inc.

Les services de prévention des sinistres Quest inc.

5100, rue de la Savane, bureau 200

Montréal, QC H4P 1T8

(514) 341-4545

www.questlosscontrol.com

 

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