Some of the black pipe these days comes with a coating on it, I believe for
corrosion resistance. I also believe that painted grooved fittings are
acceptable in this application. 
Please correct me if I am wrong.

If it is an FM project, all dry system piping is to be galvanized.

I would definitely explain the "maintenance" costs later and the frequency
of such if he pushes the black pipe - a little higher cost now can save a
lot later. 

Bobby Gillett
Sr. Project Manager
Key Fire Protection, Inc.
(731) 424-0130 office  (731) 424-9285 fax 
(731) 267-4853 cell
www.keyfireprotection.com
 
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Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:25 AM
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Subject: RE: Black Steel Pipe Outside

NFPA 13, 2007-7.8.5 Pipe and Fittings. Pipe and fittings installed on the
exterior
of the building or structure shall be corrosion resistant.

8.16.4.2.3 Where corrosive conditions exist or piping is exposed
to the weather, corrosion-resistant types of pipe, fittings,
and hangers or protective corrosion-resistant coatings shall be
used.

Craig L. Prahl, CET   
Fire Protection 
CH2MHILL
Lockwood Greene
1500 International Drive
Spartanburg, SCĀ  29304-0491
Direct - 864.599.4102
Fax - 864.599.8439
CH2MHILL Extension  74102
[email protected]


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Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Black Steel Pipe Outside

We've been asked to price up a manual dry standpipe for a fresh water
marina, all pipe will exposed outdoors. Our thought is to used galvanized
but the GC is trying to get us to provide raw black steel instead because he
says the cut sheet doesn't say it can't be used outside. Common sense alone
says this will rust in no time, does anyone know of anywhere in code or
otherwise that (I've looked) that I can show this guy it's not a good idea?

Brian Harris, CET
BVS Systems Inc.
Sprinkler Division
bvssystemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/>
Phone: 704.896.9989
Fax: 704.896.1935

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