I don't know for sure but the coatings on black steel seem to be there more for protecting it for the short time involved post manufacture to sale, shipping, a short time time storage. They don't make pipe today that they expect to be storing for five years, The game is to make it and sell it as fast as possible. I think these coatings are not designed to protect the pipe for any extended length of time. If they were we'd never use galvanized.
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Brian Harris <[email protected]>wrote: > I did see that but Allied makes a coating called M-Coat that this guy > seems to think means it meets the requirement of 8.16.4.2.3, I thinks > that's a huge stretch since the data sheets don't mention anything about > being suitable for outside conditions. I suppose I'll give Allied a call > and pick their brains as well. > > Brian Harris, CET > BVS Systems Inc. > bvssytemsinc.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Black Steel Pipe Outside > > NFPA 13, 2007-7.8.5 Pipe and Fittings. Pipe and fittings installed on the > exterior of the building or structure shall be corrosion resistant. > > 8.16.4.2.3 Where corrosive conditions exist or piping is exposed to the > weather, corrosion-resistant types of pipe, fittings, and hangers or > protective corrosion-resistant coatings shall be used. > > Craig L. Prahl, CET > Fire Protection > CH2MHILL > Lockwood Greene > 1500 International Drive > Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 > Direct - 864.599.4102 > Fax - 864.599.8439 > CH2MHILL Extension 74102 > [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:08 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Black Steel Pipe Outside > > We've been asked to price up a manual dry standpipe for a fresh water > marina, all pipe will exposed outdoors. Our thought is to used galvanized > but the GC is trying to get us to provide raw black steel instead because > he says the cut sheet doesn't say it can't be used outside. Common sense > alone says this will rust in no time, does anyone know of anywhere in code > or otherwise that (I've looked) that I can show this guy it's not a good > idea? > > Brian Harris, CET > BVS Systems Inc. > Sprinkler Division > bvssystemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/> > Phone: 704.896.9989 > Fax: 704.896.1935 > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachments/20130117/045f8b04/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachments/20130117/5938bcf7/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
