The M-coat is not a corrosion resistance coating. Read the info on the Allied website.
Craig L. Prahl, CET Fire Protection CH2MHILL Lockwood Greene 1500 International Drive Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 Direct - 864.599.4102 Fax - 864.599.8439 CH2MHILL Extension 74102 [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Greenman Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Black Steel Pipe Outside I don't know for sure but the coatings on black steel seem to be there more for protecting it for the short time involved post manufacture to sale, shipping, a short time time storage. They don't make pipe today that they expect to be storing for five years, The game is to make it and sell it as fast as possible. I think these coatings are not designed to protect the pipe for any extended length of time. If they were we'd never use galvanized. On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Brian Harris <[email protected]>wrote: > I did see that but Allied makes a coating called M-Coat that this guy > seems to think means it meets the requirement of 8.16.4.2.3, I thinks > that's a huge stretch since the data sheets don't mention anything > about being suitable for outside conditions. I suppose I'll give > Allied a call and pick their brains as well. > > Brian Harris, CET > BVS Systems Inc. > bvssytemsinc.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Black Steel Pipe Outside > > NFPA 13, 2007-7.8.5 Pipe and Fittings. Pipe and fittings installed on > the exterior of the building or structure shall be corrosion resistant. > > 8.16.4.2.3 Where corrosive conditions exist or piping is exposed to > the weather, corrosion-resistant types of pipe, fittings, and hangers > or protective corrosion-resistant coatings shall be used. > > Craig L. Prahl, CET > Fire Protection > CH2MHILL > Lockwood Greene > 1500 International Drive > Spartanburg, SC 29304-0491 > Direct - 864.599.4102 > Fax - 864.599.8439 > CH2MHILL Extension 74102 > [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Harris > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:08 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Black Steel Pipe Outside > > We've been asked to price up a manual dry standpipe for a fresh water > marina, all pipe will exposed outdoors. Our thought is to used > galvanized but the GC is trying to get us to provide raw black steel > instead because he says the cut sheet doesn't say it can't be used > outside. Common sense alone says this will rust in no time, does > anyone know of anywhere in code or otherwise that (I've looked) that I > can show this guy it's not a good idea? > > Brian Harris, CET > BVS Systems Inc. > Sprinkler Division > bvssystemsinc.com<http://bvssystemsinc.com/> > Phone: 704.896.9989 > Fax: 704.896.1935 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: < > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attac > hments/20130117/045f8b04/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/private/sprinklerforum/attachments/20130117/5938bcf7/attachment.html> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://fireball.firesprinkler.org/mailman/listinfo/sprinklerforum
