Brad,

  The eight hours is a normal work day.  An employee could come in, open a 
manual valve and fill the tank in a normal shift.  Yes the requirements would 
apply to a pond.  A water supply that is empty is of little use to the fire 
protection system it supplies.  If the well takes more than 8 hours to fill the 
pond, to the capacity needed for the fire pump only, then another means (tanker 
trucks) would have to be employed.

   The double tank senerio is interesting.  The water supply would be re-filled 
in 18 mins well under the 8 hrs allowed.  Tank B can be refilled at any rate 
once tank A is 100%, because the water supply has been returned to normal.

Duane Fox, Jr
Current AHJ

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad 
Casterline
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: NFPA 22 2013 Water storage re-fill time.

ok good, now then, if you are/were an A.H.J., how would you answer this
question: "How much time do we get to be able to re-fill a water storage
tank in 8 hours"? for example, 150,000 gallon capacity for demand*duration,
say tank A, from which the pump takes suction. Now we build a twin tank B,
and connect to tank A with 8" pipe with a shut-off valve normally closed.
There is an event and tank A runs dry. We open the shut-off valve and tank A
is re-filled in about 18 minutes. The well pump then starts refilling tank
B, which will take 3 days. So the question is "how much time do we get to be
able to re-fill the tank within in 8 hours?".

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Casterline [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: NFPA 22 2013 Water storage re-fill time.

asking for a co-worker:

 

1) Why are water storage tanks required to be re-filled in 8 hours?

2) Would the requirement apply to ponds (man-made with liner in this case)?

3) Are there any alternatives to the requirement?

 

(the pond is large and filled by a well pump with a pumping rate that would
take more than 8 hours)

 

many thanks,

 

Brad Casterline, NICET IV

Fire Protection Division

 

FSC, Inc.

P: 913-722-3473

[email protected]

www.fsc-inc.com

 

Engineering Solutions for the Built Environment

 

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