And tying B suction nozzle to pump suction would be far easier than shifting 
the water which, given typical tanks, would leave you with two half full tanks 
and I need of a large pump. KISS and if feasible run some pipe and throw in a 
cv and os&y. 

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On May 16, 2013, at 2:57 PM, "craig.pr...@ch2m.com" <craig.pr...@ch2m.com> 
wrote:

> How much time do you get in 8 hours to re-fill the tank?   8 (eight) hours or 
> 480 minutes or 28,800 seconds, or however else you want to slice it.  That's 
> how much time you've got to refill the tank.
> 
> If tank "A" is the primary tank and supplies the required duration and you 
> erect a backup tank adjacent to it as redundant and you drain tank "A", dump 
> tank "B" into "A" and you've met the 8 hour requirement with no problem.  
> Then however long it takes to fill tank "B" is of no consequence because it 
> is not the primary supply for the system.  Now if you have an event on day 
> one of the 3-day re-fill of tank "B" and tank "A" is empty again, then you've 
> got an issue.   But you've also probably been attacked and overrun by alien 
> zombies so no one will care.   
> 
> 
> 
> Craig L. Prahl, CET   
> Fire Protection 
> CH2MHILL
> Lockwood Greene
> 1500 International Drive
> Spartanburg, SC  29304-0491
> Direct - 864.599.4102
> Fax - 864.599.8439
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org 
> [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Brad 
> Casterline
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 2:43 PM
> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
> Subject: RE: NFPA 22 2013 Water storage re-fill time.
> 
> ok good, now then, if you are/were an A.H.J., how would you answer this
> question: "How much time do we get to be able to re-fill a water storage tank 
> in 8 hours"? for example, 150,000 gallon capacity for demand*duration, say 
> tank A, from which the pump takes suction. Now we build a twin tank B, and 
> connect to tank A with 8" pipe with a shut-off valve normally closed.
> There is an event and tank A runs dry. We open the shut-off valve and tank A 
> is re-filled in about 18 minutes. The well pump then starts refilling tank B, 
> which will take 3 days. So the question is "how much time do we get to be 
> able to re-fill the tank within in 8 hours?".
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Casterline [mailto:bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:18 AM
> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org
> Subject: NFPA 22 2013 Water storage re-fill time.
> 
> asking for a co-worker:
> 
> 
> 
> 1) Why are water storage tanks required to be re-filled in 8 hours?
> 
> 2) Would the requirement apply to ponds (man-made with liner in this case)?
> 
> 3) Are there any alternatives to the requirement?
> 
> 
> 
> (the pond is large and filled by a well pump with a pumping rate that would 
> take more than 8 hours)
> 
> 
> 
> many thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Brad Casterline, NICET IV
> 
> Fire Protection Division
> 
> 
> 
> FSC, Inc.
> 
> P: 913-722-3473
> 
> bcasterl...@fsc-inc.com
> 
> www.fsc-inc.com
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