NEW sprinklers are susceptible to damage in the back of the delivery truck on a hot summer afternoon. My gut tells me lawyers and insurance companies have annual meetings at the same time and in the same hotel.
Mike Hill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 12:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: removing sprinkler on drop H ave we sufficient evidence that it is the reinstalled heads are the ones accidently discharging? It just seems like a waste to throw a 20 dollar head away because you have to remove and reinstall.....or even a 3 dollar head. We WILL comply with code, but I strongly disagree. Greg On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Todd - Work <[email protected]> wrote: > I would think that the vast majority of problems in mis-handling > sprinklers in this manner come from premature actuation (especially > with glass bulb) and not failure to actuate in a fire. I would also > think that only in very rare circumstances would you lose a building > due to an accidental discharge of a sprinkler. > > Todd G Williams, PE > Fire Protection Design/Consulting > Stonington, CT > www.fpdc.com > > On Sep 5, 2013, at 11:48 AM, "Cahill, Christopher" > <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > "then it appears you can re-use sprinklers left in drops or sprigs" > Where does this appearance come from? I don't see it in the Code, > Annex or Handbook. Quite frankly, that is the only place that counts > in descending order of priority. > > > > I agree with Todd there is some judgment and risk tolerance. I'm > > sure > not 'buying' a building loss over what a <$10 device I my current role. > When I was a contractor maybe we weren't perfect in this regard. > When I was an AHJ if asked - new, and lot of don't ask don't tell. > > > > Chris Cahill, PE* > > Senior Fire Protection Engineer > > Burns & McDonnell > > 8201 Norman Center Drive > > Bloomington, MN 55437 > > Phone: 952.656.3652 > > Fax: 952.229.2923 > > [email protected] > > www.burnsmcd.com > > > > Proud to be one of FORTUNE's 100 Best Companies to Work For > > *Registered in: MN > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark A. > Sornsin, P.E. > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 10:27 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: removing sprinkler on drop > > > > I would argue that this shouldn't be an argument as long as it is > specified up-front. If the owner or engineer says do not reinstall, > then don't argue, because if you win, it is your butt on the line > should the head fail. > > > > If this is a competitive bid situation or direct work with owner, > > with > no c > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org > -- Greg McGahan Living Water Fire Protection, LLC <http://www.livingwaterfp.com> 1160 McKenzie Road Cantonment, FL 32533 850-937-1850 fax 850-937-1852 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
