I called a local GURU....the official answer is as follows: Tied off - NO Have a form of fall protection - YES - can be a person holding the ladder
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Daniel Wilder <[email protected]>wrote: > As I went through some classes a couple months ago (OSHA & MSHA). No > specific requirement for the ladder at that height (it kicks in at 15-20' > or so for "fixed" ladders), the fall protection requirement kick in based > on what is around you (leading edge, machinery, open containers, etc.). . > Working platforms are also worded so that the requirements are 6' and one > "could" argue the platform/ladder angle. MSHA is a different animal all > together. > > > https://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=standards&p_id=10839The > official wording > > > https://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=INTERPRETATIONS&p_id=23870Interpretation > saying no > > > https://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=INTERPRETATIONS&p_id=25906Interpretation > saying no > > > http://nycosh.org/uploads/safety_hazards/Fall%20Protection%20Misconceptions%20and%20Myths.pdf(Page > 11) > > http://us.wernerco.com/support/faq/about-fall-protection I even found a > harness site that says it's not needed > > Some others I had BM'd > > https://www.osha.gov/Publications/osha3124.pdf > > https://www.osha.gov/doc/outreachtraining/htmlfiles/stairlad.html > > http://osha4you.com/trainer-resources/fall-protection > > May want to check with the local OSHA office for their interpretation as > well. > > Dan W > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McGahan > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:27 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: OSHA Tie off requrements > > I am willing to be wrong, but in the last 18 years I have never heard that > feet can be more than 6' off the ground on a ladder without being tied off > to the structure. > > If I am wrong, I would love to have the documentation to fight this issue > when necessary. > > Thanks, > Greg > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Douglas Hicks <[email protected]> wrote: > > > How do you tie off a ladder, it you cannot climb the ladder until it > > is tied off? > > > > -----Original Message----- From: BJ Newlin > > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 9:25 AM > > > > To: > > sprinklerforum@lists.**firesprinkler.org<[email protected] > > nkler.org> > > Subject: OSHA Tie off requrements > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > We have a general contractor's safety consultant requiring us to tie > > off if our feet are more than 6'-0" above the ground when we are > > working off of a step ladder (our fitters feet are at 8'-0" off the > ground on a 10' ladder). > > My recollection is this isn't an OSHA requirement, as they assert, but > > more of a general contractors requirement, at least as it relates to > > step ladders. Does anyone know for sure one way or another if this > > specifically required by OSHA and where I could find that text? > > > > Thank you in advance! > > > > BJ Newlin > > > > [email protected] > > > > mobile: 913.208.1714 > > phone: 913.432.6688 > > fax: 913.432.5294 > > > > The secret of Change is to focus all of your energy not on fighting > > the old, but on building the new. > > - Socrates > > > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > Sprinklerforum@lists.**firesprinkler.org<[email protected] > > nkler.org> > > http://lists.firesprinkler.**org/listinfo.cgi/** > > sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.**org<http://lists.firesprinkler.org/list > > info.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org> > > ______________________________**_________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > Sprinklerforum@lists.**firesprinkler.org<[email protected] > > nkler.org> > > http://lists.firesprinkler.**org/listinfo.cgi/** > > sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.**org<http://lists.firesprinkler.org/list > > info.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org> > > > > > > -- > Greg McGahan > Living Water Fire Protection, LLC <http://www.livingwaterfp.com> > 1160 McKenzie Road > Cantonment, FL 32533 > 850-937-1850 > fax 850-937-1852 > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > -- Greg McGahan Living Water Fire Protection, LLC <http://www.livingwaterfp.com> 1160 McKenzie Road Cantonment, FL 32533 850-937-1850 fax 850-937-1852 _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
