I'll echo the comments. I've always had the water flow qualified in the bid
scope. If we weren't able to obtain the flow from official sources like the
fire or water department, then we cited a "typical" flow and noted it as the
minimum required.

Marc Walter, SET
SPRINKLER DESIGN SERVICES, LLC
780 6th Avenue
Seaside, Oregon  97138
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cahill,
Christopher
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Adequate water supply

What Scott said.  Was it design build?  Where did the flow test comes from?
Was there a change in flow test between design and construction?  With a
change why?  With a change, for example  the City turning down the pressure
after the design test but before the construction test, probably not the
contractors problem.  But if you tell me you need a pump and you do the
wrong remote area, don't take reduction allowances, use 5.6 heads where 8
work and 1" BL then probably not justified.  And yes, been part of both
scenarios recently.  One paid, one didn't.

Chris Cahill, PE*
Senior Fire Protection Engineer
Burns & McDonnell
8201 Norman Center Drive
Bloomington, MN 55437
Phone:  952.656.3652
Fax:  952.229.2923
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve
Johnson
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 4:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Adequate water supply

At what point does anyone think the owner/general contractor should be
liable for a change order for the increased pipe size due to lack of
adequate water for the calculations of the sprinkler system?

 

    Steve

 

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