Well unfortunately the drawing does say stage and the area is approx. 1600 sqft.
Craig Leadbetter Safeguard of Marquette PO Box 116 Marquette, MI 49855 (P) 906-475-9955 (F) 906-475-5474 (C) 906-362-5393 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of rongreenman . Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 10:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Stages According to an AHJ I had to deal with once, it was a stage if the architect wrote stage and a platform if he wrote platform. This opened up so many possibilities. On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Cahill, Christopher <[email protected]>wrote: > It's defined twice in IBC > > Inversely in the definition for PLATFORM. A raised area within a > building used for worship, the presentation of music, plays or other > entertainment; the head table for special guests; the raised area for > lecturers and speakers; boxing and wrestling rings; theater-in-the > round stages; and similar purposes wherein there are no overhead > hanging curtains, drops, scenery or stage effects other than lighting and sound. > > And STAGE. A space within a building utilized for entertainment or > presentations, which includes overhead hanging curtains, drops, > scenery or stage effects other than lighting and sound. > > So do you have curtains, drops, scenery or other stage effects? Note > size does not matter, storage underneath does not matter when defining > whether you have a stage or not. > > Chris Cahill, PE* > Senior Fire Protection Engineer > Burns & McDonnell > 8201 Norman Center Drive > Bloomington, MN 55437 > Phone: 952.656.3652 > Fax: 952.229.2923 > [email protected] > www.burnsmcd.com > > Proud to be one of FORTUNE's 100 Best Companies to Work For > *Registered in: MN > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:40 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Stages > > IFC 905.3.4 ('06 ed) kicks in the hose valve requirement at greater > than > 1000 sqft. So I guess a "stage" can be under 1000 sqft. but the hose > valves wouldn't be required. > > Ron F > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard > Lindner > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 4:46 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists firesprinkler. org > Subject: Re: Stages > > You need to use the appropriate building code to determine platform vs > stage for this area of the country. If stage, square footage and > ability to store under will also come into play. > > Richard > On Oct 10, 2013 7:06 AM, "Craig Leadbetter" > <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > At what point does a stage become a stage rather than just a raised > > platform? > > > > I am working on a project that is an old school that is being > > converted to apartments, however a portion of the building will > > remain as an educational classification with a school "stage" in the > > gymnasium portion of the building. > > > > Should I be looking at this as a full blown "stage" and all of the > > hose stations and such or am I over thinking? I am trying to > > eliminate the need for a fire pump. > > > > No, I can't ask the engineer. we basically got an x through the > > drawings and says provide fire protection to meet code. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Craig Leadbetter > > > > Safeguard of Marquette > > PO Box 116 > > Marquette, MI 49855 > > > > > > (P) 906-475-9955 > > (F) 906-475-5474 > > (C) 906-362-5393 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sprinklerforum mailing list > > [email protected] > > > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprin > > kl > > er.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
