Craig, The size of the stage matters greatly when you are considering if a standpipe is required. See below:
IBC 2009 [F]- 905.3.4 Stages. Stages greater than 1,000 square feet in area shall be equipped with a class 3 wet standpipe system with 1.5" and 2.5inch hose connections on each side of the stage. Exception: Where the building or area is equipped throughout with an automatic sprinkler system, a 1.5" hose connection shall be installed in accordance with NFPA 13 or in accordance with NFPA 14 for Class 2 or 3 standpipes. So my take is the same as Ron F. It may technically be defined a stage but it doesn't require the standpipe unless it is over 1,000ft. Rod at Rapid -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cahill, Christopher Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Stages It's defined twice in IBC Inversely in the definition for PLATFORM. A raised area within a building used for worship, the presentation of music, plays or other entertainment; the head table for special guests; the raised area for lecturers and speakers; boxing and wrestling rings; theater-in-the round stages; and similar purposes wherein there are no overhead hanging curtains, drops, scenery or stage effects other than lighting and sound. And STAGE. A space within a building utilized for entertainment or presentations, which includes overhead hanging curtains, drops, scenery or stage effects other than lighting and sound. So do you have curtains, drops, scenery or other stage effects? Note size does not matter, storage underneath does not matter when defining whether you have a stage or not. Chris Cahill, PE* Senior Fire Protection Engineer Burns & McDonnell 8201 Norman Center Drive Bloomington, MN 55437 Phone: 952.656.3652 Fax: 952.229.2923 [email protected] www.burnsmcd.com Proud to be one of FORTUNE's 100 Best Companies to Work For *Registered in: MN -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Stages IFC 905.3.4 ('06 ed) kicks in the hose valve requirement at greater than 1000 sqft. So I guess a "stage" can be under 1000 sqft. but the hose valves wouldn't be required. Ron F -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Lindner Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 4:46 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists firesprinkler. org Subject: Re: Stages You need to use the appropriate building code to determine platform vs stage for this area of the country. If stage, square footage and ability to store under will also come into play. Richard On Oct 10, 2013 7:06 AM, "Craig Leadbetter" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > At what point does a stage become a stage rather than just a raised > platform? > > I am working on a project that is an old school that is being > converted to apartments, however a portion of the building will remain > as an educational classification with a school "stage" in the > gymnasium portion of the building. > > Should I be looking at this as a full blown "stage" and all of the > hose stations and such or am I over thinking? I am trying to eliminate > the need for a fire pump. > > No, I can't ask the engineer. we basically got an x through the > drawings and says provide fire protection to meet code. > > Thanks > > > Craig Leadbetter > > Safeguard of Marquette > PO Box 116 > Marquette, MI 49855 > > > (P) 906-475-9955 > (F) 906-475-5474 > (C) 906-362-5393 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
