You use residential pendants and cpvc if within the listing. You can use
the pendants because the owner may one day finish the basement.
Richard, we do a lot of these now so if you want to discuss feel free to
call me tomorrow.
On Dec 5, 2013 3:54 PM, "Richard Mote" <[email protected]> wrote:

> OK so if I use upright sprinklers, since there is not a listed residential
> upright (that I am aware of) do I do a 2 head calculation at .05 over the
> coverage area or .10 using QR upright sprinklers?  I guess my trepidation
> comes from the fact that this is a large open area, it doesn't really have
> the compartmentalization  that is typical of a 13D system. 2 heads just
> doesn't seem adequate, but that's just me.
>
>
> Richard L. Mote
> Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
> 7994 Route 522, Suite 1
> PO Box 407
> Middleburg, PA 17842
> P 570-837-7647
> F 570-837-6335
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Young
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 3:41 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: NFPA 13D or 13?
>
> Yes, you do it per 13d. Also check out the 2012 version of the irc,
> section p2904.
> On Dec 5, 2013 3:36 PM, "Triolo, Joe" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Yes,  we have used it in town on a few instances and ask for 13D
> > System
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis
> > Mack
> > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 3:33 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: NFPA 13D or 13?
> >
> > Does NFPA 1 apply to a single family residence?
> >
> > Travis Mack, SET
> > MFP Design, LLC
> > 2508 E Lodgepole Drive
> > Gilbert, AZ 85298
> > 480-505-9271
> > fax: 866-430-6107
> > email:[email protected]
> >
> > On 12/5/2013 1:31 PM, Triolo, Joe wrote:
> > > In NFPA-1 Section 13.3.2.2   requires that Basements exceeding 2500 ft2
> > (232 m2) in new buildings shall be protected throughout by an approved
> > automatic sprinkler system.  Thanks
> > >
> > > Inspector Joe Triolo
> > > Hudson Fire Prevention
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> > > Todd Letterman
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 3:15 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Cc: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: NFPA 13D or 13?
> > >
> > > Wow! So much for life safety? Does the AHJ have a reason for this?
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > >> On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:11 PM, "Richard Mote"
> > >> <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I guess I will have to show my ignorance, I can count on one hand
> > >> the
> > number of 13D systems I have designed in the last 10 years. This
> > project is a 13D single family custom home with a basement of 2746 sq.
> > ft. the AHJ is requiring that the basement be sprinklered, but he
> > isn't requiring the rest of the house to have sprinklers. Since this
> > would normally be part of a 13D system do I just do a 2 head
> > calculation and call it done? Or do I calculate a 900 sq. ft. area,
> > per 13. (It does meet all the criteria for area reduction) My thinking
> > is that even though the basement could be protected per 13D if the
> > entire house was covered, since this is a special requirement by the
> > AHJ I should calculate per 13. BTW the 2007 codes are the applicable
> > standards at this time. The owner is going to have to install tanks and
> a pump so the difference in demand is a big deal.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Richard L. Mote CET
> > >> Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc.
> > >> 7994 Route 522, Suite 1
> > >> PO Box 407
> > >> Middleburg, PA 17842
> > >> P 570-837-7647
> > >> F 570-837-6335
> > >>
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