I don't want to spend a lot of time on this, boss handed me a print, here layout sprinklers on this, and do a demand calculation so we can tell them how big a pump and how many tanks. After they see our price they will probably opt for drywall. I just want to make sure I'm doing it right. And since I do so few 13D designs I thought I would ask the experts.
Richard L. Mote Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. 7994 Route 522, Suite 1 PO Box 407 Middleburg, PA 17842 P 570-837-7647 F 570-837-6335 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Young Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 4:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: NFPA 13D or 13? You use residential pendants and cpvc if within the listing. You can use the pendants because the owner may one day finish the basement. Richard, we do a lot of these now so if you want to discuss feel free to call me tomorrow. On Dec 5, 2013 3:54 PM, "Richard Mote" <[email protected]> wrote: > OK so if I use upright sprinklers, since there is not a listed > residential upright (that I am aware of) do I do a 2 head calculation > at .05 over the coverage area or .10 using QR upright sprinklers? I > guess my trepidation comes from the fact that this is a large open > area, it doesn't really have the compartmentalization that is typical > of a 13D system. 2 heads just doesn't seem adequate, but that's just me. > > > Richard L. Mote > Rowe Sprinkler Systems, Inc. > 7994 Route 522, Suite 1 > PO Box 407 > Middleburg, PA 17842 > P 570-837-7647 > F 570-837-6335 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ben Young > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 3:41 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: NFPA 13D or 13? > > Yes, you do it per 13d. Also check out the 2012 version of the irc, > section p2904. > On Dec 5, 2013 3:36 PM, "Triolo, Joe" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yes, we have used it in town on a few instances and ask for 13D > > System > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis > > Mack > > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 3:33 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: NFPA 13D or 13? > > > > Does NFPA 1 apply to a single family residence? > > > > Travis Mack, SET > > MFP Design, LLC > > 2508 E Lodgepole Drive > > Gilbert, AZ 85298 > > 480-505-9271 > > fax: 866-430-6107 > > email:[email protected] > > > > On 12/5/2013 1:31 PM, Triolo, Joe wrote: > > > In NFPA-1 Section 13.3.2.2 requires that Basements exceeding 2500 ft2 > > (232 m2) in new buildings shall be protected throughout by an > > approved automatic sprinkler system. Thanks > > > > > > Inspector Joe Triolo > > > Hudson Fire Prevention > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > > > Of Todd Letterman > > > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 3:15 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Cc: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: NFPA 13D or 13? > > > > > > Wow! So much for life safety? Does the AHJ have a reason for this? > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > >> On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:11 PM, "Richard Mote" > > >> <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> I guess I will have to show my ignorance, I can count on one hand > > >> the > > number of 13D systems I have designed in the last 10 years. This > > project is a 13D single family custom home with a basement of 2746 sq. > > ft. the AHJ is requiring that the basement be sprinklered, but he > > isn't requiring the rest of the house to have sprinklers. Since this > > would normally be part of a 13D system do I just do a 2 head > > calculation and call it done? Or do I calculate a 900 sq. ft. area, > > per 13. (It does meet all the criteria for area reduction) My > > thinking is that even though the basement could be protected per 13D > > if the entire house was covered, since this is a special requirement > > by the AHJ I should calculate per 13. BTW the 2007 codes are the > > applicable standards at this time. The owner is going to have to > > install tanks and > a pump so the difference in demand is a big deal. > > >> > > >> > > >> Richard L. 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