No, fire protection water only supplied from several pumps.

Mike Morey, CFPS, SET
Planner Scheduler/Designer
BMWC Constructors, Inc.
1740 W. Michigan St, Indianapolis, IN 46222
O: 317.651.0596 | C: 317.586.8111
[email protected] | www.bmwc.com

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From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> on behalf 
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Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 12:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: PIV Tampering - IFC vs IBC vs NFPA

Does your campus loop main also supply domestic water?

J. Scott Mitchell, PE
Fire Protection Engineer | Facility & System Design
CNS Pantex | 806.477.5883 |

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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Morey, Mike
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 9:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: PIV Tampering - IFC vs IBC vs NFPA

Right, but our private campus loop main doesn't directly control any sprinkler 
systems, but has a number of isolation valves for subdivision.  If two valves 
were closed obviously it would be a problem, but I'm not really sure the intent 
of 903.4 is that every valve on any fire main of any kind must be 
electronically monitored when they don't directly feed a sprinkler system.  As 
far as I can tell the campus loop should be governed under chapter 5 which 
defers to NFPA 24.  Specifically:
507.2.1 Private fire service mains. Private fire service mains and 
appurtenances shall be installed in accordance with NFPA 24.

But several people involved are saying "but IBC just says tamper all the 
valves" (because chapter 5 from the IFC doesn't exist in IBC and they feel that 
IBC trumps IFC somehow on the subject, I believe the discrepancy arises because 
IBC only governs buildings and has no need to address outside fire main 
systems), I'm trying to see if there shouldn't be a distinction based on the 
"Private fire service main" and if so exactly what does or does not constitute 
a private fire service main, the NFPA 24 definition actually includes all the 
pipe to the base of the riser which is the only definition I could come up with.

Mike Morey, CFPS, SET
Planner Scheduler/Designer
BMWC Constructors, Inc.
1740 W. Michigan St, Indianapolis, IN 46222
O: 317.651.0596 | C: 317.586.8111
[email protected] | www.bmwc.com
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