I agree with Chris, don't even begin to guess until the floor covering is tested. The Fire Marshal should request a test through Chapter 8 of the IBC!
IBC 2012 edition 804.3 Testing and identification. Interior floor finish and floor covering materials shall be tested by an agency in accordance with NFPA 253 and identified by a hang tag or other suitable method so as to identify the manufacturer or supplier and style, and shall indicate the interior floor finish or floor covering classification according to Section 804.2. Carpet-type floor coverings shall be tested as proposed for use, including underlayment. Test reports confirming the information provided in the manufacturer's product identification shall be furnished to the building official upon request. 804.4 Interior floor finish requirements. Interior floor covering materials shall comply with Sections 804.4.1 and 804.4.2 and interior floor finish materials shall comply with Section 804.4.2. 804.4.1 Test requirement. In all occupancies, interior floor covering materials shall comply with the requirements of the DOC FF-1 "pill test" (CPSC 16 CFR Part 1630) or with ASTM D 2859. 804.4.2 Minimum critical radiant flux. In all occupancies, interior floor finish and floor covering materials in enclosures for stairways and ramps, exit passageways, corridors and rooms or spaces not separated from corridors by partitions extending from the floor to the underside of the ceiling shall withstand a minimum critical radiant flux. The minimum critical radiant flux shall not be less than Class I in Groups I-1, I-2 and I-3 and not less than Class II in Groups A, B, E, H, I- 4, M, R-1, R-2 and S. Exception: Where a building is equipped throughout with an automatic sprinkler system in accordance with Section 903.3.1.1 or 903.3.1.2, Class II materials are permitted in any area where Class I materials are required, and materials complying with DOC FF-1 "pill test" (CPSC 16 CFR Part 1630) or with ASTM D 2859 are permitted in any area where Class II materials are required. Duane Johnson, PE Design Manager Strickland Fire Protection 301-474-1136 Office 301-455-0010 Cell -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cahill, Christopher Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 8:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Indoor Soccer Facility This doesn't really both me either. Look at the dynamics. You don't have anything but the floor to burn, correct? You don't have an upper layer preheating the tires. Tires don't turn to a flammable liquid pool fire as easily as plastics. Yes, tire/rubber is a little harder to put out once going. Heat/ fire go up and out. It doesn't spread to the side very easily in solids. All that said this should be a very easy scenario to take outside and light it on fire. Serious, do a test. See if you can get a sustained fire. And if so see with just a little water if it stops spreading. Remember a successful fire is a contained fire not a suppressed fire. Oh and BTW the best you can do is not 0.2/1500 with 13 psi safety. Just a quirk of mine...carry on. Chris Cahill, PE* Associate Fire Protection Engineer Burns & McDonnell Phone: 952.656.3652 Fax: 952.229.2923 [email protected] www.burnsmcd.com *Registered in: MN Proud to be #14 on FORTUNE's 2014 List of 100 Best Companies to Work For On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Chris Ellsworth <[email protected]> wrote: > We were contracted to do a few add/relocates on an existing concrete > tee construction facility. A flag was thrown up once we found out > what was being installed for this tenants flooring. They are using an > astro turf type field. The problem isn't with the turf itself. It > has undergone extensive testing to prove that it is not flammable. > The problem is with the inlay. They have used the type of inlay you > would see on an outdoor facility which is ground up tires. I have > checked with the plant manager who supplied their product and they do > not use any type of a fire proofing spray on the product. Essentially > it is ground up tires. We have a deck height of approximately 16 feet and it > is double tee concrete construction. > The fire marshal and my concern is that the existing sprinkler system > can not handle this type of fire. I have already calced it and the > best the system could do is a .2/1500. This gives a 13 lb safety. > Has anybody dealt with anything close to this on an indoor facility > and should we be concerned with this inlay? 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