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-----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of rongreenman . Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 11:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Light & OH1 Hazard From Same Riser Perhaps the better question is does the fire code allow storage in a mechanical room. If no then it is the owners responsibility to insure that this use is not allowed. I hate what if scenarios because a case of styrofoam cups and a case of TP, and some filters and other miscellaneous office supplies suddenly become cases of things. I got a good deal on a truckload of styrofoam coffee cups so I sixteen pallets of cups stacked to the ceiling in my mechanical room. I won't have to buy cups again for a thousand years. Now where to put that railcar deal I got on toilet paper? And Steve. I was just too late in getting to this but I get to to introduce you in Phoenix. I just got my lead in joke. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Cahill, Christopher <[email protected]> wrote: > I hate to tell you but the below changes nothing. I don't see where > mechanical rooms without stockpiles are addressed. Mechanical rooms > with stockpiles by DESIGN are not all that common. I'm not arguing in > PRACTICE they are usually used for storage. FWIW I treat them as OHII > but in tight water situations when they are small or only have air > handlers then OHI would suffice. > > Chris Cahill, PE* > Associate Fire Protection Engineer > Burns & McDonnell > Phone: 952.656.3652 > Fax: 952.229.2923 > [email protected] > www.burnsmcd.com > *Registered in: MN > > > Proud to be #14 on FORTUNE's 2014 List of 100 Best Companies to Work > For > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sprinklerforum > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > Tom Wellen > > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 11:25 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Light & OH1 Hazard From Same Riser > > > > The next edition, 2016 will address mechanical rooms in the annex. > > > > I submitted PI No. 514 to address mechanical rooms: > > > > Public Input No. 514-NFPA 13-2013 [ Section No. A.5.3.1 ] > > A.5.3.1 > > Ordinary hazard (Group 1) occupancies include occupancies having > > uses > and conditions similar to the following: > > (1) Automobile parking and showrooms > > (2) Bakeries > > (3) Beverage manufacturing > > (4) Canneries > > (5) Dairy products manufacturing and processing > > (6) Electronic plants > > (7) Glass and glass products manufacturing > > (8) Laundries > > (9) Restaurant service areas > > (10) Mechanical rooms with stockpiles up to 8 ft > > > > Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input A new > mechanical room by definition is a light hazard occupancy. The room is > empty and the equipment is generally noncombustible. The AHJ likely > will not buy off that the room will not be used for storage. > > > > I also submitted Public Input No. 515-NFPA 13-2013 [ Section No. > > A.5.3.2 > ] that was rejected: > > A.5.3.2 > > Ordinary hazard (Group 2) occupancies include occupancies having > > uses > and conditions similar to the following: > > ...... > > (31) Mechanical rooms with stockpiles up to 12 ft > > > > Committee Statement > > Resolution: The definition of OH2 will drive the user to this > > occupancy > hazard classification. This language is superfluous. > > > > > > Tom Wellen > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl > er.org > -- Ron Greenman Instructor Fire Protection Engineering Technology Bates Technical College 1101 So. Yakima Ave. Tacoma, WA 98405 [email protected] http://www.bates.ctc.edu/fireprotection/ 253.680.7346 253.576.9700 (cell) Member: ASEE, SFPE, ASCET, NFPA, AFSA, NFSA, AFAA, NIBS, WSAFM, WFC, WFSC They are happy men whose natures sort with their vocations. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) A problem well stated is a problem half solved. -Charles F. Kettering, inventor and engineer (1876-1958) _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler .org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
