So ask him where in the table (or the text) it say if you're more than the
minimum distance away for the ordinary temp sprink that you must use an
ordinary temp sprink?  He's really reaching.

Ed Kramer
Lawrence, KS
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For example, the plan reviewer is stating that if the sprinkler is >6" 
from a furnace or water heater, it MUST be ordinary temp rated.

I understand the standard to state that you can use intermediate or ordinary
throughout.  Table 8.3.2.5(c) just states that if I am within certain
distances to a heat source, I MUST use the intermediate temp sprinkler.

The plan reviewer is reading that if I am more than the minimum distance
away, I MUST use ordinary.  He is stating that Table 8.3.2.5(c) over-rides
8.3.2.1.

So, who is correct?  That is the question that I need to be able to resolve
with the plan reviewer.

Travis Mack, SET
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On 11/12/2015 10:29 AM, Ed Kramer wrote:
> Table 8.3.2.5(c) gives the minimum distance from various heat sources 
> for both ordinary and intermediate temp sprinks.  I don't see anything 
> in that table that dictates which sprink temp must be used.  Are we 
> missing something?
>
> Ed Kramer
> Lawrence, KS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum 
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:53 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Intermediate temperature sprinklers
>
> We are designing an apartment complex per NFPA 13 requirements.  Is it 
> permissible to install intermediate temperature sprinklers throughout 
> all spaces (except those that would specifically require a high temp 
> sprinkler due to other sections)?
>
> The specific question arises because we have ordinary temperature 
> sprinklers throughout most areas, and intermediate temp sprinklers in 
> mechanical closets and laundry rooms in the dwelling units.  The AHJ 
> states that since the areas (mech closets and laundry areas in the 
> dwelling units) are conditioned spaces, that we must use ordinary
temperature rated sprinklers.
> He states that Table 8.3.2.5(c) over-rides the flexibility provided by
> 8.3.2.1 which allows ordinary or intermediate temp sprinklers 
> throughout buildings.
>
> This has been common practice to install the intermediate temp 
> sprinklers in these areas.  This is the first time that this plan 
> reviewer has ever brought this up.  Some contractors in this area are 
> moving toward intermediate temp sprinklers throughout in residential 
> areas for various reasons.
>

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